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Breaking the Spell — Motherhood, Escape & Reclaiming her Voice | Part 2
In Part 2 of this powerful conversation, Bethany Joy Lenz — actor, singer, and author of Dinner for Vampires — continues her story of life inside a high-control religious group while navigating fame on One Tree Hill.
This episode picks up where we left off: unpacking the emotional, spiritual, and psychological cost of living under manipulation — and what it takes to reclaim your voice once you’re out.
We talk about:
- The lingering effects of indoctrination
- The intensity of public life versus private suppression
- Shame, perfectionism, and the fear of being “bad”
- Narcissistic dynamics in spiritual systems
- Expressing rage and grief through art
Joy speaks with clarity, insight, and zero performative fluff — just one survivor speaking truthfully about the systems that tried to define her… and the long process of becoming herself again.
📚 Buy the Book
📖 Dinner for Vampires: Life on a Cult TV Show (While Also in an Actual Cult!) by Bethany Joy Lenz
Follow Bethany Joy Lenz →https://www.instagram.com/msbethanyjoylenz/
Support the show
The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast or Mark Vicente. Any content provided by guests are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.
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Breaking the Spell — Motherhood, Escape & Reclaiming her Voice | Part 2
In Part 2 of this powerful conversation, Bethany Joy Lenz — actor, singer, and author of Dinner for Vampires — continues her story of life inside a high-control religious group while navigating fame on One Tree Hill.
This episode picks up where we left off: unpacking the emotional, spiritual, and psychological cost of living under manipulation — and what it takes to reclaim your voice once you’re out.
We talk about:
- The lingering effects of indoctrination
- The intensity of public life versus private suppression
- Shame, perfectionism, and the fear of being “bad”
- Narcissistic dynamics in spiritual systems
- Expressing rage and grief through art
Joy speaks with clarity, insight, and zero performative fluff — just one survivor speaking truthfully about the systems that tried to define her… and the long process of becoming herself again.
📚 Buy the Book
📖 Dinner for Vampires: Life on a Cult TV Show (While Also in an Actual Cult!) by Bethany Joy Lenz
Follow Bethany Joy Lenz →https://www.instagram.com/msbethanyjoylenz/
Support the show
The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast or Mark Vicente. Any content provided by guests are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/MarkVicente
Website: www.markvicente.com
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@markvicente7
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markvicente/
X: https://x.com/markvicente
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark_vicente
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markvicente/
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