Voxology

Does God Cause Suffering? Reclaiming God's Goodness in the Face of Evil


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A bold exploration into one of the most unsettling theological questions: does God cause evil and suffering? Mike Erre and Andy Lara kick off this deep-dive theological series by confronting the reformed doctrine of meticulous sovereignty—popularized by groups like The Gospel Coalition—and its claim that God not only allows but ordains suffering to achieve his glory. With humor, thoughtfulness, and academic grounding, Mike outlines an alternative view that reflects God's goodness more compellingly, rooted in the overarching biblical narrative.

This episode offers a popular-level yet intellectually rich walkthrough of the Bible, highlighting how human freedom, divine partnership, and the brokenness of creation challenge the deterministic theology that God wills every tragedy. From Genesis to Paul's epistles, Mike builds the case that God's original intent was to rule through human agency—not override it—and that evil is not the product of God's direct will but a distortion of it.

Key Takeaways: • Meticulous Sovereignty vs. Participatory Creation – A critique of the idea that God predestines all events, including evil and suffering, and why it clashes with the biblical story of human agency and divine cooperation. • A Different Story of Sovereignty – A fresh retelling of the biblical narrative that emphasizes cooperative partnership between God and humanity, from Genesis through Jesus. • Jesus as the Clear Picture of God – How Jesus's battle against sickness, death, demonic powers, and injustice reflects a God who confronts—not causes—evil. • Death as the Enemy, Not God's Tool – Why Paul calls death the "last enemy to be destroyed," offering a decisive argument against the idea that God wills death to bring glory.

Resources Mentioned: • 1 Corinthians 15:20-26 – Paul's picture of death and enemy powers against God's reign • Gospel Coalition tweet: "God doesn't just allow suffering. He ordains it." • Genesis 1-3 – The creation mandate and the role of human image-bearers • David Bentley Hart – Orthodox theologian critiquing deterministic sovereignty • Bill Johnson's When Heaven Invades Earth – Offering a theology of the kingdom consistent with Jesus's ministry

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We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV.

Our Merch Store! ETSY

Learn more about the Voxology Podcast

Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify

Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon

The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio

Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook

Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre

Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford

Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

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