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DoubleLine Capital Round Table Prime 2024: Part 2 - Market Outlook


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5:02 Stock-Pickers Market/Opportunities in a Rising Rates Environment
During the markets segment of its 2024 edition, participants in DoubleLine Round Table Prime present their outlooks on various markets and topics for 2024. Coming together for Round Table Prime are DoubleLine CEO Jeffrey Gundlach and moderator DoubleLine Deputy Chief Investment Officer Jeffrey Sherman with their guests James Bianco, President and Macro Strategist at Bianco Research; Danielle DiMartino Booth, CEO of Quill Intelligence; Charles Payne, author and Fox Business Anchor; and David Rosenberg, President of economic consulting firm Rosenberg Research & Associates. Round Table Prime was held Jan. 11, 2024.
(00:29) Charles Payne discusses the state of the IPO pipeline heading into 2024 and how that pipeline has punished investors for 15, 20 years. He also shares his Word of the Year for stock investors: nimble.
(5:06) Jim Bianco says the art of stock picking is very much alive, breaks down “a multi-year bear market in bonds,” talks the resilience of the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency, and discusses China’s slow recovery and its impact on commodities.
(10:44) Jeffrey Gundlach looks at valuations and price-to-earnings since the November start of the Everything Rally then talks about how a secular shift from a long period of declining interest rates to a period of rising interest rates will impact participants’ and prognosticators’ understanding of the markets. He also discusses the potential economic backdrop that would have him looking at EM and lower tiers of credit, and he shares why he has put money in India and doesn’t even look at it. He closes with his thoughts on mortgage spreads, high yield bond defaults and TIPS.
(25:18) David Rosenberg talks about how the CPI is a flawed statistic, the S&P 500’s flat two-year performance with no improvement in valuations, how there’s so much psychology involved in the stock market, the equity risk premium, and how the soft landing is real and how historically it has served as a precursor to contraction. He also shares his thoughts on positioning and the outlook for several countries, including Japan and Canada.
(42:08) The markets section concludes with Danielle DiMartino Booth discussing private markets juxtaposed against public markets and the impact of public pension funds flowing into private equity a few years ago, and speculating on who will be living in Illinois if Indiana gets rid of its state income tax.

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