Doug Ducey, 23rd Governor of Arizona, joins the podcast to discuss how he made Arizona the first state to pass Universal School Choice and Universal Licensing Recognition as well as his major influences and career which includes growing Coldstone Creamery into an international company as CEO.

Jon Hartley is an economics researcher with interests in international macroeconomics, finance, and labor economics and is currently an economics PhD student at Stanford University. He is also currently a Research Fellow at the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, a Senior Fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, and a research associate at the Hoover Institution.

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