How does the environment impact a person's recovery journey over time? In this episode, Drs. Jalie Tucker and Katie Witkiewitz discuss their recently articulated dynamic behavioral ecological model of recovery, with a bonus discussion about shallow lakes! Dr. Jalie Tucker is the Founding Director of the Center for Behavioral Economic Health Research and the Mary F. Lane Endowed Professor in the Department of Health Education and Behavior at the University of Florida. Dr. Katie Witkiewitz is the Director of the Center on Alcohol, Substance use, and Addictions (CASAA) and a Distinguished Professor in the Department of Psychology at the University of New Mexico.