On episode five of Run the Numbers, Jenny Decker (CFO of Front) sits down with host CJ Gustafson to talk top frameworks at Front, the importance of storytelling, and taking the road less traveled. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/metrics 

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode Preview

(00:15) SEGMENT: CJ's opening “Off the Books” monologue - listener mailbag question one: Why don't you put attrition/vacancy assumptions in your headcount budget?

(03:09) Listener mailbag question two: What does CJ think about hybrid pricing (usage- and subscription-based)?

(09:04) What was keeping Jenny up at night when she first became CFO at Front?

(11:21) Sponsor: Netsuite

(12:43) Frameworks on decision-making

(14:22) How do Jenny implement frameworks and create buy-in at Front?

(17:35) What keeps Jenny up at night now?

(18:55) What separates the great vs. good CFOs

(24:15) On how to foster relationships with internal stakeholders

(26:03) On hiring

(31:40) Jenny's advice for CJ's paternity leave

(33:50) Jenny's path to CFO

(42:02) Long-ass lightning round: an example of when Jenny screwed up on the job, Front’s finance software stack, the craziest thing someone tried to expense

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