If the chaos of everyday life has you feeling uncertain, or if the unknowns of a purpose-driven project are triggering resistance, this conversation is for you!

In this snippet from episode 185, you’ll be inspired to embrace uncertainty rather than shy away from it.

Kelly is joined by international best-selling author, minimalist pioneer, podcaster, top 25 blogger (ZenHabits.net), and father of six, Leo Babauta. Together, they explore how to live more authentically through a zen lifestyle and how stepping into the unknown can lead to deeper clarity and self-trust.

Leo is currently on a mission to change 100 million lives through his uncertainty training program, The Fearless Living Academy, where he helps people who struggle with embracing uncertainty or being consistent in forming positive habits.

In this discussion, Leo shares practical strategies to help you move toward uncertainty and take action despite the unknown, manage inner resistance, and rewrite the limiting stories in your mind by leaning into curiosity.

He also explains how purpose often lies beyond your comfort zone and how staying in the familiar can hold you back from real growth.

Be inspired to tap into what Leo calls the “layer of being” and start embracing the discovery that unfolds when you enter the unknown. Listen to the full discussion in Episode 184: Adopt Zen Habits with Leo Babauta ZenHabits.net The Fearless Living Academy

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