The Pivot

Emerging from the Numb: Josh Wilson Embraces Life “Unmuted”


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In this week’s episode, Andrew Osenga sits down with friend and musician Josh Wilson to discuss his journey of personal and professional change. Josh shares why his answer to “What have you changed your mind about and why?” is profoundly different now than it would have been four years ago. He opens up about his past struggles with alcohol addiction and anxiety, and how his decision to speak publicly about these experiences became a significant pivot in his life and career. Discover how embracing vulnerability and seeking help transformed his songwriting and approach to his artistry, leading to his latest album, “Mental Help.”

 

Thought-Provoking Quotes: 

“When I started drinking, I drank in moderation. It wasn’t a problem for a number of years. But when it became a problem, I was drinking to turn down those questions, to turn down the volume on the anxiety and sort of the existential hum that was always there. I didn’t realize this until I quit, because when I quit they came back.” - Josh Wilson

“I realized it’s just more fun to be honest and tell the truth in my songwriting and in my own personal life with friends and family. It’s not that I air all my dirty laundry. I’m the Venn diagram of who people think I am and who I actually am. I’m trying to close that as much as possible in an appropriate way.” - Josh Wilson

“I hope when someone hears me talk about these things honestly—anxiety, depression, and addiction—I hope it’s disarming in the sense that if someone hears it, whether in conversation or in a song, they think, Okay, yeah, it's normal to deal with these kinds of things.” - Josh Wilson

“I’ve released so many songs that I’ve already said so many things about subject A, B, and C. It’s like, Well, I could write another song, or I could try and dig even deeper and find something that makes me a little bit uncomfortable to talk about and hopefully makes people lean in, like, God’s not mad at you. I want to hear that.” - Josh Wilson

“I had a mental breakdown in 2022, and thankfully I’m so much better. Now I’m to the point where I have the mental capacity. I’m sort of rebuilding it all and picking up where I left off back in 2019, and taking multiple instruments out. I want to connect on a human level with people.” - Josh Wilson

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Radnor Lake State Park

The Painted Desert album by Andrew Osenga

Mental Help album by Josh Wilson

“Jesus and Therapy” song by Josh Wilson

“God’s Not Mad at You” song by Josh Wilson

Jubilee YouTube channel

The Russell Moore Show

Phil Keaggy

Ed Sheeran

Jason Gray

*Watch this interview on the YouTube channel!  

*All episode music is by Andrew Osenga. 

 

Guest’s Links: 

Josh Wilson’s website

Josh Wilson’ Instagram

Josh Wilson’s Facebook

Josh Wilson’s YouTube

Josh Wilson’s TikTok

Josh Wilson’s X

 

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*The Pivot is produced in conjunction with Four Eyes Media.

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