In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Emily Witt discuss:

• How Emily’s Be That Lawyer tipping point started by rock climbing. 
• Top reasons lawyers are looking to move firms. 
• Advice for lawyers searching for a move. 
• One thing lawyers wish they knew. 

Key Takeaways:

• Many lawyers feel they are in the dark in regards to their career progression. 
• During the pandemic, we saw that many lawyers do enjoy being around their colleagues and getting feedback from their coworkers and senior lawyers. 
• Some lawyers may not need a book of business to move, but for most attorneys, it is a point of leverage and strength in a move. 
• When it comes time to make a move, many lawyers do not understand how big their book of business needs to be, even when they believe it is comfortable already. 

"Often lawyers are not aware in law school of what the whole legal landscape looks like, particularly where a lot of law schools give a very siloed view of the law firms that are out there. They might not be completely familiar with the fact that there are boutiques out there and that there are different ways to practice law, and how to get to those different junctures in your career." —  Emily Witt

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Episode References: 

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About Emily Witt: Emily Witt is a dedicated legal recruiter with over 20 years of experience, both on the law firm side and the agency side. She began her legal career at Wachtell, Lipton Rosen & Katz, where she was the Senior Recruiting Coordinator. Emily took a leap of faith in 2016 to work for a search firm and now places attorneys into roles in law firms and in-house companies. Her passion for women's advancement in tech and healthcare advocacy fueled her desire to specialize in those areas. Emily hosts a podcast, Beyond the Legal Lens, that helps open the door to jobs in tech and health law. She also has a platform, the Advocate's Mic, that highlights mission-driven attorneys who are creating impactful initiatives in their communities.  

Connect with Emily Witt:  

Website: https://www.beyondthelegallens.com/

Show: https://www.beyondthelegallens.com/podcast

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilywittslegalpath/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/emily.witt.104/

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emilydwitt

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Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

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