Mom and Mind

ENCORE: Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts with Karen Kleiman, MSW, LCSW


Listen Later

Instead of a normal Behind the Sessions episode today, I’m featuring a great interview with Karen Kleiman from a previous show as we approach May, Maternal Mental Health Month. Maternal mental health needs a massive spotlight on it because it’s gone under-recognized and undersupported for far too long. 


Karen Kleiman is a well-known international maternal mental health expert with over 35 years of experience. She is an advocate and the author of several groundbreaking books on postpartum depression and anxiety. Her work has been featured in multiple media outlets, including local and national TV, magazines, radio shows, and health websites. Karen founded The Postpartum Stress Center in 1988 and The Karen Kleiman Training Center in 2022. Their work is dedicated to the advancement of clinical expertise and therapeutic strategies for the treatment of perinatal mood and anxiety disorders. Her advanced trainings are heavily influenced by The Art of Holding Perinatal Women in Distress™ model of intervention, created by Karen. She’s here to discuss intrusive thoughts and how to determine when intervention is necessary. Join us to learn more! 


Show Highlights:


  • Karen’s passion for writing, which is still there after 14 books!
  • Karen’s purpose in being a compassionate voice to others through her books
  • So many women are still suffering without the support they need and deserve!
  • The harsh reality of the pandemic’s effects on new moms
  • The wide range of scary thoughts: “What’s normal and what’s not?”
  • The truth: Not all moms feel good about motherhood.
  • “How do I know my scary thoughts are TOO scary?” (How to measure a mom’s distress)
  • Fact: Not all intrusive thoughts are OCD-related.
  • The biggest problem: Moms aren’t telling us how bad they feel.
  • Karen’s book, What About Us?, and its guidance on navigating relationships, which ends up being primarily the woman’s responsibility
  • Karen’s best advice for new moms

  • Resources:


    Connect with Karen Kleiman and The Postpartum Stress Center: Website, Facebook, Instagram, What About Us?, and Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts


    Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov


    Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. 


    You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms


    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.  


    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!


    If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients!




    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    Mom and MindBy Katayune Kaeni, Psy.D., PMH-C

    • 4.8
    • 4.8
    • 4.8
    • 4.8
    • 4.8

    4.8

    208 ratings


    More shows like Mom and Mind

    View all
    ADHD Experts Podcast by ADDitude

    ADHD Experts Podcast

    1,322 Listeners

    Edit Your Life | Simplify + Declutter Your Home, Time, and Mental Space by Christine Koh

    Edit Your Life | Simplify + Declutter Your Home, Time, and Mental Space

    519 Listeners

    The Birth Hour - A Birth Story Podcast by Bryn Huntpalmer

    The Birth Hour - A Birth Story Podcast

    2,155 Listeners

    10% Happier with Dan Harris by 10% Happier

    10% Happier with Dan Harris

    12,553 Listeners

    The Lazy Genius Podcast by Kendra, The Lazy Genius

    The Lazy Genius Podcast

    6,518 Listeners

    Therapist Uncensored Podcast by Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

    Therapist Uncensored Podcast

    1,388 Listeners

    What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood | Parenting Tips From Funny Moms by Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson

    What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood | Parenting Tips From Funny Moms

    993 Listeners

    Evidence Based Birth® by Rebecca Dekker, PhD, RN

    Evidence Based Birth®

    1,017 Listeners

    Light Up The Couch by Clearly Clinical

    Light Up The Couch

    321 Listeners

    Raising Good Humans by Dear Media, Aliza Pressman

    Raising Good Humans

    1,868 Listeners

    Momwell by Erica Djossa

    Momwell

    303 Listeners

    The Critical Care Obstetrics Podcast by Clinical Concepts in Obstetrics

    The Critical Care Obstetrics Podcast

    203 Listeners

    Good Inside with Dr. Becky by Dr. Becky Kennedy

    Good Inside with Dr. Becky

    4,381 Listeners

    We Can Do Hard Things by Glennon Doyle and Audacy

    We Can Do Hard Things

    41,498 Listeners

    The Mel Robbins Podcast by Mel Robbins

    The Mel Robbins Podcast

    20,604 Listeners