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In this conversation, Tanner Mullen interviews Eric The Painter about his journey in starting a painting business and the challenges he faced. They discuss the difficulties in managing and recruiting painters, the transition from subcontractors to W2 employees, and the implementation of a performance-based pay structure. Eric shares his experiences with employee turmoil and setbacks, as well as the importance of building a virtual office team. They also touch on the future of virtual sales and coaching. Overall, Eric's story highlights the importance of innovation and adaptability in the painting industry.

Takeaways

Managing and recruiting painters can be challenging, especially when transitioning from subcontractors to W2 employees.

Implementing a performance-based pay structure can incentivize employees to exceed expectations and provide more value to the business.

Building a virtual office team can be effective in managing a painting business remotely.

The future of the painting industry may involve more virtual sales and coaching.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

02:08 Challenges in Managing and Recruiting Painters

05:12 Dealing with Employee Turmoil and Setbacks

09:08 Transitioning from Subcontractors to W2 Employees

12:15 Implementing a Performance-Based Pay Structure

15:41 Tracking and Managing Hours and Bonuses

20:58 Building a Virtual Office Team

23:37 The Future of Virtual Sales and Coaching

27:13 Conclusion and Contact Information