This conversation delves into the importance of recognizing and responding to fatigue signals from the body and learning how to take a step back from training. It emphasizes the need for self-care, recovery, and long-term health strategies to maintain performance and well-being. Est and Lyds share personal insights on the dangers of tying your identity to running, how this can make taking a break harder, and how to change your perspective of why rest matters. They also share how to manage energy levels and speak about the significance of thinking about future health goals.

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