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It's the 91 year anniversary of BIll W.'s "White Light Spiritual Experience" so we're going to unpack it all in this episode. We'll cover what drugs Bill was on, some of Towns history (the founder of the rehab Bill was in), Carl Jung's work on the numinous or spiritual / religious experiences and we'll hear from the livestream audience about their thoughts on spiritual experience.
I timestamped it below in case you want to skip around.
Timestamps:
00:00 91 Years Later: Deconstructing Bill Wilson’s White Light Experience
02:32 Bill Made His Experience Institutional "Proof"
05:14 The Spiritual Experience Requirement
11:05 The Drugs Bill Was On
25:08 The Jung Letter and Chain-Style Transmission
29:22 Personal Psychedelic Experiences vs Universal Prescription
49:23 Leaving AA and the Psychological Devastation
51:57 Deconstructing ‘AA Worked For Me’ or 'Didn't Work'
55:32 Bill's Hallucination Still Shapes Recovery Today
1:03:44 The Cognitive Dissonance Around Bill’s LSD Use
1:09:18 AA as Mythology, Not Medicine
01:14:42 Carl Jung vs. Bill Wilson
01:25:08 Towns Hospital
1:33:42 Healing Trauma + Exit Costs
1:41:03 Jung Was Opposite of Bill in Thinking
Resources for deconstructing AA:
👉 Deprogram Lounge (community, Zooms, book club, Escape Kit + more)
🧰 Escape Kit (resources to Deprogram AA)
📚 Deprogram Book List (my fave deprogram, cult recovery and critical thinking books)
🌀 Deprogram AA Course (free your mind at your own pace)
Let’s get f*cking free
By Kirsten Johnson4.6
1010 ratings
It's the 91 year anniversary of BIll W.'s "White Light Spiritual Experience" so we're going to unpack it all in this episode. We'll cover what drugs Bill was on, some of Towns history (the founder of the rehab Bill was in), Carl Jung's work on the numinous or spiritual / religious experiences and we'll hear from the livestream audience about their thoughts on spiritual experience.
I timestamped it below in case you want to skip around.
Timestamps:
00:00 91 Years Later: Deconstructing Bill Wilson’s White Light Experience
02:32 Bill Made His Experience Institutional "Proof"
05:14 The Spiritual Experience Requirement
11:05 The Drugs Bill Was On
25:08 The Jung Letter and Chain-Style Transmission
29:22 Personal Psychedelic Experiences vs Universal Prescription
49:23 Leaving AA and the Psychological Devastation
51:57 Deconstructing ‘AA Worked For Me’ or 'Didn't Work'
55:32 Bill's Hallucination Still Shapes Recovery Today
1:03:44 The Cognitive Dissonance Around Bill’s LSD Use
1:09:18 AA as Mythology, Not Medicine
01:14:42 Carl Jung vs. Bill Wilson
01:25:08 Towns Hospital
1:33:42 Healing Trauma + Exit Costs
1:41:03 Jung Was Opposite of Bill in Thinking
Resources for deconstructing AA:
👉 Deprogram Lounge (community, Zooms, book club, Escape Kit + more)
🧰 Escape Kit (resources to Deprogram AA)
📚 Deprogram Book List (my fave deprogram, cult recovery and critical thinking books)
🌀 Deprogram AA Course (free your mind at your own pace)
Let’s get f*cking free

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