TV personality and interior designer Genevieve Gorder gives Amy and Jaime the lowdown on the whirlwind that was Trading Spaces, which changed the trajectory of her life and career. She also tells the story of working for Prince back in the day, and gets candid on divorce, motherhood, and telling off contractors.

Ep. 2: Genevieve Gorder

<a href="https://www.cleverpodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clever</a> is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us.In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to unearth the gritty, authentic and sometimes surprising details of their creative paths. <a href="https://www.cleverpodcast.com/clever-confidential" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Clever Confidential</a> is Clever’s offshoot series where we dig into the lesser told stories of the darker side of design; the shadowy, sometimes sordid, tales hiding under a glossy top coat of respectable legacy. Visit our website:<a href="https://www.cleverpodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cleverpodcast.com</a><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us. In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to unearth the gritty, authentic and sometimes surprising details of their creative paths. Clever Confidential is Clever’s offshoot series where we dig into the lesser told stories of the darker side of design; the shadowy, sometimes sordid, tales hiding under a glossy top coat of respectable legacy. Visit our website: cleverpodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

<a href="https://www.cleverpodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Clever</a> is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us.In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to unearth the gritty, authentic and sometimes surprising details of their creative paths. <a href="https://www.cleverpodcast.com/clever-confidential" rel="noopener noreferrer">Clever Confidential</a> is Clever’s offshoot series where we dig into the lesser told stories of the darker side of design; the shadowy, sometimes sordid, tales hiding under a glossy top coat of respectable legacy. Visit our website:<a href="https://www.cleverpodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">cleverpodcast.com</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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