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In this episode we explore the Toltec path of shamanic dreaming — not as a philosophy, but as a living practice of perception, impeccability and energetic freedom. Joel Schafer shares his story of entering this work at a young age, what it truly means to reclaim attention from the “predator mind,” and how dreaming serves as a doorway into other layers of reality. We dive into the Toltec understanding of death as an ally, recapitulation as a path to restoring totality, and why true shamanic training requires power, humility, and self-honesty rather than substances or titles. This is a conversation for those who sense there is more to this world than meets the eye — and are ready to learn how to see.
Time Stamps
(00:00) Episode Teaser
(00:37) Opening Conversation
(06:18) Introducing Joel Schafer
(07:34) Joel's Shamanic Journey
(17:54) Experiences with New Shamanic Group
(21:49) Understanding Inorganic Beings
(23:28) The True Role of a Shaman
(31:00) The Toltec Tradition and Dreaming
(39:44) Interpreting Dreams and Dark Entities
(49:22) The Balance of Discipline and Impeccability
(50:46) Creative Practices and Substance Use
(52:00) Martial Arts and Dreaming Practices
(53:03) The Concept of Totality and Parallel Lives
(01:05:03) The Role of Death as an Advisor
(01:13:44) Experiences of Power and Perception
(01:20:20) The Connection with Earth and Sun
(01:26:47) Closing Thoughts
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https://www.instagram.com/joel.schafer
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In this episode we explore the Toltec path of shamanic dreaming — not as a philosophy, but as a living practice of perception, impeccability and energetic freedom. Joel Schafer shares his story of entering this work at a young age, what it truly means to reclaim attention from the “predator mind,” and how dreaming serves as a doorway into other layers of reality. We dive into the Toltec understanding of death as an ally, recapitulation as a path to restoring totality, and why true shamanic training requires power, humility, and self-honesty rather than substances or titles. This is a conversation for those who sense there is more to this world than meets the eye — and are ready to learn how to see.
Time Stamps
(00:00) Episode Teaser
(00:37) Opening Conversation
(06:18) Introducing Joel Schafer
(07:34) Joel's Shamanic Journey
(17:54) Experiences with New Shamanic Group
(21:49) Understanding Inorganic Beings
(23:28) The True Role of a Shaman
(31:00) The Toltec Tradition and Dreaming
(39:44) Interpreting Dreams and Dark Entities
(49:22) The Balance of Discipline and Impeccability
(50:46) Creative Practices and Substance Use
(52:00) Martial Arts and Dreaming Practices
(53:03) The Concept of Totality and Parallel Lives
(01:05:03) The Role of Death as an Advisor
(01:13:44) Experiences of Power and Perception
(01:20:20) The Connection with Earth and Sun
(01:26:47) Closing Thoughts
Guest Links
https://www.joelschafer.com/
https://www.instagram.com/joel.schafer
Connect with Us
Join our membership Friends of the Truth
Take the Real AF Test Now
Discover Your Truth Seeker Archetype
Watch all our episodes
Connect with us on Telegram
Access all our links

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