Hosts Jesse Eubanks and Sam Stevenson map the story of how Type 8s became who they are and interview writer and church ministry leader Barnabas Piper about his own life story. Jesse and Barnabas face off in Hot Seat, where Barnabas reveals his true taste in music. Everyone also answers listener questions about Type 8. Get a copy of Mapping Your Enneagram Story at www.mappingyourstory.com.