“How do the three Type 9 subtypes each seek peace in their own way?” In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey explore the unique world of Type 9 subtypes—those peacemakers who seek harmony in all aspects of life. They’re joined by Beth McCord, founder of Your Enneagram Coach and a Type 9 herself, who shares how understanding the Enneagram helped her find her voice as a wife, mother, and business owner. Beth opens up about the challenges of merging with others and how she’s learned to embrace her true self while fostering peace and connection. She talks about the delicate balance between nurturing harmony and losing oneself in the process, and how her experiences in marriage and motherhood have shaped her journey. Beth also delves into the three Type 9 subtypes—Self-Preservation, Seeking, and Social—and how they manifest in her own life, as well as offering wisdom for Type 9s who are striving to find their balance. The episode wraps up with a fun game of Your Worst Nightmare, where Beth faces her fears—several of which include creepy creatures with wings!

“What are the different types of 8s and what makes their strength look so different from each other?” In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the world of Type 8 subtypes, exploring how each subtype’s unique instincts shape the way Type 8s connect with others. They are joined by Meredith Boggs, a Type 8, emergency nurse, and author, who shares her personal journey of navigating the balance between power and vulnerability. Meredith opens up about how her need for control, shaped by childhood experiences, once defined her relationships and leadership. She explains how motherhood and life experiences shifted her approach, allowing her to step into greater vulnerability and empathy, which she now sees as strengths. The episode wraps up with a hilariously intense round of Pick Your Poison, where Meredith faces a tough choice—what would she do if she found herself in a shark attack? Let’s just say the shark might want to be more worried about her than she is about it. Tune in for this wild and revealing moment!

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the vibrant world of Type 7 subtypes—the enthusiastic adventurers who crave freedom and fun. Joining them is author and Enneagram coach Jackie Brewster, who brings her insights into how a Type 7 can harness their energy without losing their sense of self. Jackie opens up about why rigid routines feel like shackles and how she’s learned to create flexible structures that support her natural spontaneity. She shares the challenging but transformative journey of learning to slow down and sit in silence, revealing how stillness has been essential for healing the deeper pains she used to run from. The episode wraps up with a playful round of Show Me You Know Me, where Jackie faces an unexpected twist: what would she do if she was in second place and the leader tripped just before the finish line? Will she take the high road or race to claim the win?

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey tackle the subtypes of Type 6s—the loyal skeptics who are always scanning for potential pitfalls. Joining them is Enneagram coach and seasoned pastor Adam Breckenridge, who brings 17 years of pastoral experience and deep insights into what makes a Type 6 tick. Adam shares why courage for a Type 6 isn’t the absence of fear but rather the choice to move forward in its presence. He opens up about his younger years spent trying to conquer fear by charging headfirst into the things that scared him most and explains why he doesn’t believe 6s are always the most anxious people in the room. The episode wraps up with a side-splitting round of Your Worst Nightmare, where Jesse and Lindsey make Adam choose between impossible scenarios. Things get hilarious as Adam talks about why he doesn't trust mimes.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the elusive world of Type 5 subtypes—arguably the most complex to unpack. They explore how each subtype takes a distinct spin on the quest for competency and self-sufficiency. Joining them is business owner and podcast producer Elizabeth Evans, who gets candid about the challenges of being a Type 5. She opens up about the emotional shutdowns that occur when Type 5s suppress their feelings, how she finds intimacy in quiet, one-on-one interactions, and the delicate balance between her deep need for solitude and her desire for friendship. The episode wraps up with a hilarious round of Pick Your Poison, where the crew somehow manages to turn Thanksgiving into a nightmare and leaves everyone terrified to yawn in Elizabeth’s presence.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the emotional depth of Type 4 subtypes, revealing how each one adds a unique layer to this introspective and complex type. They’re joined by author and podcast host Heather MacFadyen, who gets real about her journey as a Type 4 and why it took her so long to pinpoint her subtype. Heather opens up about the tension between craving connection with a group and her natural ability to go deep with just one person. She also shares her passion for creating safe spaces for others to express tough emotions and how experiencing God’s acceptance transformed the way she sees herself. The episode wraps up with a lively round of What’s Your Number, where Heather spills her unfiltered thoughts on fake antiques, latte art, and beds overloaded with decorative pillows.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the subtypes of Type 3, breaking down how each one uniquely influences this driven type. They’re joined by psychologist and author Dr. Alison Cook who gets honest and personal as she explores her subtype. Lindsey and Alison talk about how hard it is to make things look easy and what the journey from image to authenticity looks like. The gang plays Pick Your Poison where Alison is forced to choose between two horrible options.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey delve into the nurturing world of Type 2 subtypes—the caring helpers driven by a deep desire to be needed. They’re joined by Dr. Kristi Gaultiere, author and co-founder of Soul Shepherding, who shares her journey of learning to let others care for her and how her life story shaped this struggle. Kristi opens up about balancing psychological and spiritual work, and what it means to truly believe that all truth is God’s truth. She reflects on how solitude, once feeling like punishment, became the path to embracing God’s love for her beyond her service to others. The episode wraps up with a lively round of Trial By Trolley, where Kristi faces a hilarious moral dilemma: will she run over the person who invented pop-up ads or the identity thief who bought a yacht in her name?

Connect with Kristi:

Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete Enneagram

Russ Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.com

Today, Jesse and Lindsey talk about the subtypes of the Type 1. They interview enneagram coach and pastor, Brian Lee. They discover Brian's subtype and how it shows up in his relationships. Brian shares about how his type operates in social situations.

Connect with Brian:

Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete Enneagram

Russ Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.com

“Why do people with the same Enneagram type act so differently?” In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey explore the fascinating world of Enneagram subtypes. Through personal stories and expert insights, they reveal how knowing your subtype can clarify long-standing patterns and even common mistypes. From the fortress-building self-preservation types to the community-driven social types and intensity-seeking “seekers,” this episode helps you identify your instinctual drive and balance it for more intentional relationships and self-growth. Discovering your subtype might just explain those subtle misalignments between your type and behavior—and give you the tools for true self-understanding.

Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete Enneagram

Russ Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.com