In this episode of Cache Me Outside, we sit down with the two men behind the $25,000 Utah Treasure Hunt — Dave and John. They reveal never-before-shared hints about this year’s poem, discuss what dark side of the moon really means, and answer fan-submitted questions about clues, misdirections, and how close people actually are.

We cover:

• Whether stones are literal rocks

• What “lion-hearted” really points to

• If there’s a throwaway line in the poem

• How close someone actually is to the treasure

• Their favorite (and most misunderstood) lines

• And more exclusive hints

This is the episode where things start to unravel. If you’re hunting, you don’t want to miss it.