[Recorded on the evening of May 15 2024, in this episode:  Joey Svendsen, Hayne Griffin, Robbie Madison, Matt Oxley]

With “Firefighter Hayne” present, the host crew discuss some pretty intense emergency situations that Hayne was also present at while working his vocation as a rescue worker. Somehow the discussion shifts to everyones' most fearful ways to die and whether the jumpers' acts on 9/11 were suicides, even though they were going to die regardless. Great fun!  

But don't fear, the conversation gets a bit more light-hearted.  Given the recent Independence Day celebration and with a chaotic election season looming, christian nationalism, what Jesus would say to the American church, and whether “winning” has anything to do with the gospel, are some of the topics at hand on this one.  

The catalyst of the conversation = Joey’s son and some of his peers got a singing gig for a gathering of conservative Christians, their meeting centering around "winning the country back to God" and steering America's culture back in alignment with biblical values.  All of this got Joey thinking about Jesus winning by losing (His death and resurrection); and whether Christians should be concerned whatsoever with winning their country back to God.  

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Theme Song by Stoy Prioleau (aka: Riggy Roc): Apple Music