Jonathan Rogers interviews Katy Bowser Hutson about her chapbook Now I Lay Me Down to Fight, the surprisingly motivating force of mortality, and how the "pre-verbal" component of trauma can be profoundly expressed through the verbal medium of poems.

Subscribe to The Habit Weekly newsletter.

Find out more about The Habit Membership.

Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/member

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.