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The podcast by project managers for project managers. The Ocean Cleanup organization is tackling the largest clean-up project in history. Henk van Dalen shares his passion for the project as he describes the origin of The Ocean Cleanup organization and outlines this bold project to clean the vast amounts of waste from our oceans.

Table of Contents

01:55 … Understanding the Problem 03:19 … How The Ocean Cleanup Began 05:31 … Henk’s Involvement in the Project 06:48 … Ocean Garbage Patches 08:26 … Facing Setbacks 11:21 … The Highs and Lows of Lessons Learned 14:48 … Lessons from Wilson 16:39 … Not Taking it Personally 20:57 … Plastic Size and Barrier Specifics 25:44 … Quantity of Systems Needed 28:00 … Safety for Other Vessels 30:49 … What Happens to the Collected Plastic? 32:07 … Tackling the Problem at the Source 33:50 … Cleaning up the Rivers 37:00 … Leadership Lessons 40:24 … Biggest Surprise on the Project 42:38 … Learn More about The Ocean Cleanup 44:28 … Closing

HENK VAN DALEN:  ...the

Garbage Patch out there is so big and persistent, that’s not going to away by

itself.  It’s almost looking at your

house, and you say, “I have a dirty house; but if I close the doors, then, you

know, it’s going to be fine.”  You still

need to clean it up, as well.

So for us doing that part is essential, and we believe that

the power and the impact that the Ocean Cleanup can make is really in

technology.  Develop technology.  Be able to move quickly to address the

problem that’s there already.  But also,

you know, it’s us also getting the awareness out there that people start

thinking by themselves what it is.  So if

the Ocean Cleanup looked at, but what are we good at and where can we make an

impact, it’s creating that awareness, backing it up by science and showing how

big this problem is and cleaning up the mess that is already out there.

WENDY GROUNDS:  Welcome

to Manage This, the podcast by project managers for project managers.  We’re glad you’ve joined us for a

conversation about what matters to you in the field of project management.  I’m Wendy Grounds, and here in the studio

with me is Bill Yates.

BILL YATES:  Wendy, we’ve

got an interesting theme that you’ve hit on. 

I love this.  We’ve talked about saving

the rhinos.  We’ve talked about tracking

orbital space debris.  We’ve looked

at community

gardens and food banks; sustainability.  And man, have we got a great conversation

today.

WENDY GROUNDS:  I am very excited about this one.  I have been following this project for a few years now and have been trying to find someone who will talk to us.  And we were very fortunate to find Henk van Dalen.  Henk is the Director Ocean Project of The Ocean Cleanup.  This is a project that is looking to clean up the ocean.

BILL YATES:  That’s

it, five trillion pieces of plastic that we want to remove from the ocean.  That’s a big project.

WENDY GROUNDS:  Yeah,

we’re very excited to hear Henk’s story.

Understanding the

Problem

BILL YATES:  Henk,

thank you so much for joining us today on Manage This, from your remote

location.

HENK VAN DALEN:  Thank

you.  Thank you for having me, guys.

BILL YATES:  One of the

first things I want to do is just help our listeners understand the

problem.  Can you define the problem for

us?

HENK VAN DALEN:  So within The Ocean Cleanup, we’re focusing to clean up the oceans, and that first of all means we need to close up the inflow of the oceans, taking the plastic out of the rivers, preventing it going in.  But there’s also the element of a lot of plastic being out there in the ocean itself, and that’s been accumulating there over decades.  And our focus primarily is now on the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. So that is the area of the ocean located between Hawaii and California, and there is a plastic soup, you could say, floating around which is twice the size of Texas.

So that is an immense amount of plastic,