The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

Episode 200


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Episode 200: Mail Bag!

Curt and Katie reflect on 200 episodes, answer questions and respond to feedback from listeners. We explore the tension between making a good living and providing affordable mental health care to consumers. We dig into paying prelicensed individuals, antitrust concerns, training centers, ethics codes, app therapy, setting fees, and therapist career trajectories.        

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Celebrating 200 episodes!
  • Question about how to make money and help to provide affordable access to clients
  • Systemic challenges and the phases of change to the system
  • Individual responsibility and the problems of this individual responsibility to therapists
  • The way in which we can take action to make our careers more sustainable, while also advocating for change
  • The debate about unpaid internships, training centers, and free labor (which is against the law)
  • Online App Therapy – whether it is hurting the field and gaslighting therapists
  • Sliding scale, setting fees, and why therapists’ rates vary so widely
  • Why people don’t stay therapists, feel the need to become a thought leader
  • Reflections on 200 episodes
  •  Resources mentioned:

    We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below might be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!

    CAMFT’s statement on Paying Prelicensees as a Best Practice

    Department of Labor Statement on Internship Programs

    1. Robert Casares Jr. (2020): Embracing the Podcast Era: Trends, Opportunities, & Implications for Counselors, Journal of Creativity in Mental Health, DOI: 10.1080/15401383.2020.1816865
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