Shadi talks through his inner conflicts. Damir responds by minimizing the reality of what is happening. Also: why Americans are all fundamentalists (whether secular or religious), the appropriateness of activist-journalism, the empty symbolism of woke politics, and whether the New York Times should(n’t) be our lodestar.

Reading List:

“Our Deathwish” by Jacob Siegel (Tablet)

“The Coronavirus Killed the Revolution”, by Shadi Hamid (The Atlantic)

Waverley, by Sir Walter Scott

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