Ron Block is a banjo player and a long-time member of Alison Kraus's band, Union Station. He is also an amateur theologian, a George MacDonald aficionado, and the star of O Brother, Where Art Thou? (he's the banjo player in this scene).

In this episode, Jonathan Rogers and Ron Block discuss the difference between a fixed mindset and a growth mindset, the "try-harder cycle," and how to turn that negative cycle into a positive cycle that liberates our creativity rather than suffocating it.

Writers who make Ron want to write:

• C. S. Lewis (The Chronicles of Narnia)
• George MacDonald 

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