It's summer. Damir rings up Shadi to talk about the pleasure of writing and the pain of exercising, before the conversation takes a much darker turn.

Required Reading:

Islamic Exceptionalism, by Shadi Hamid

That Mohammed Tweet, by Shadi Hamid

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