Okay you guys, Buckle up! We just interviewed Dr. Kevin Leman, whose work on Birth Order, we have talked about, referenced, more times than we could possibly count. We are so excited about having this conversation with him. We knew without a doubt we’d learn a lot.

We were not expecting to laugh as much as we did. And we were doubled over in some moments. He is so funny, which will make more sense when he talks about his birth order and how that translates to often be true for that particular birth order. 

Now stick around to the end, because he threw out some incredible wisdom of what to say to kids: who want everything to be fair, and how to navigate allowance, expectations and bed time unique to birth order. And stick around because he gave David a really hard time about being a 1st born. He teased him hard and so I never said that I was too, I just laughed along! Ya’ll are going to love this episode!

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