In this deeply important episode, I'm joined by Katy Faust—founder and president of Them Before Us, mother of four, and fearless advocate for children's fundamental rights. Together, we dive into one of the most crucial conversations of our time: how our culture's elevation of adult desires is systematically harming the most vulnerable among us—our children.

Katy brings both personal experience and profound expertise to this discussion, having grown up in a divorced home with a mother in a same-sex relationship, yet becoming one of today's most compelling voices for traditional family structures. Her perspective isn't born from theory—it's rooted in decades of youth ministry, adoption work, and witnessing firsthand what happens when children's needs come second to adult fulfillment.

We'll explore together:

✅ Why children—not adults—are the real victims in today's family debates and how reframing this changes everything

✅ The devastating statistics behind divorce culture and why "living your best life" often destroys theirs

✅ How edge cases are used to justify policies that harm the majority of children

✅ The uncomfortable truth about career vs. motherhood and why we're lying to women about what will make them happy

✅ Why marriage and family aren't about adult validation—they're about child protection and societal survival

✅ The shocking realities of surrogacy and reproductive technologies that treat children as commodities

✅ How redefining marriage legally eliminated children's rights to their biological parents

Whether you're a parent questioning cultural narratives, someone caught between career ambitions and family desires, or simply someone who cares about justice for the most vulnerable, this conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew about modern family life.

🔔 Remember: True compassion isn't found in affirming every adult desire—it's in protecting those who cannot protect themselves. Children have fundamental rights that transcend adult feelings, and it's time we start defending them.

🔔 Katy's work reveals a sobering truth: when we make adults the center of family policy, children invariably become the casualties. Don't miss this eye-opening dialogue that calls us back to what should matter most—the wellbeing of our most precious and vulnerable.

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Relevant Links for Katy: Website: https://thembeforeus.com/

X: @Advo_Katy and @ThemBeforeUs

Instagram: @katyfaustofficial and @them_before_us

Books: "Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City" and "Pro-Child Politics"