Unchained

Everything You Need to Know About Your 2020 Crypto Taxes - Ep.210


Listen Later

In this episode, Shehan Chandrasekara, head of strategy at CoinTracker, and Dan Hannum COO at Zen Ledger, take a deep dive into the world of crypto taxes. Over an hour and fifteen minutes they tackle a bevy of topics ranging from why the IRS is asking about your crypto history to explaining the proper way of reporting yield farming income. Shehan and Dan give up their hard-earned tax secrets and tips learned through building their respective cutting-edge crypto tax software. Here is a list of talking points covered in the discussion:

  • how the IRS is handling crypto this year (1:20)
  • where to start with reporting crypto and what constitutes a taxable event (5:59)
  • bitcoin corner cases:
    • mining, with a description of calculating cost basis (19:48) 
    • wages (27:01)
    • peer-to-peer transactions outside of exchanges (28:23)
  • defi and taxes:
    • yield farming — and how it's like Russian nesting dolls (31:45)
    • how the IRS taxes earned interest (36:32)
    • airdrops (40:15)
  • crypto transactions that are not taxable: purchases, withdrawals, and stablecoins (46:28)
  • navigating tax documents (51:24-58-10)
  • NFT’s and social tokens (57:14)
  • tax loss harvesting (1:03:09)
  • how having coins on platforms like Robinhood and Paypal can have an effect on your taxes (1:05:05)
  • proposed tax changes (1:06:50)
  • crypto tax software and tips for the upcoming year (1:10:29)

 

Thank you to our sponsor! 

Crypto.com: http://crypto.com

 

Episode links: 

 

Guests

  • Shehan Chandrasekara: https://twitter.com/TheCryptoCPA
  • Dan Hannum: https://twitter.com/DHannum8 
  •  

    Software

    • CoinTracker: cointracker.io
  • ZenLedger: zenledger.io
  •  

    Accounting

    • LIFO, HIFO, FIFO: https://www.forbes.com/sites/shehanchandrasekera/2020/09/17/what-crypto-taxpayers-need-to-know-about-fifo-lifo-hifo-specific-id/?sh=7077f8e936aa (written by Shehan)
    • 1040 Question: https://fortune.com/2020/09/28/the-irs-is-adding-a-cryptocurrency-question-to-form-1040-for-2020/
  • 1099 Misc: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1099msc.pdf
  • 1099 B: https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-1099-b
  •  

    Regulatory research:

    • 2014 IRS Tax Guidance: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-14-21.pdf
  • IRS Virtual Currency page: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/virtual-currencies
  • IRS gains and losses: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p550.pdf
  • Equipment write-offs: https://www.section179.org/section_179_deduction/
  • IRS sues Coinbase: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/29/16717416/us-coinbase-irs-records
  • How holding crypto at PayPal or Robinhood or any platform that does not allow you to transfer to an address off-platform could affect your taxes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/shehanchandrasekera/2021/01/28/exiting-robinhood-could-create-a-tax-nightmare-for-crypto-users/?sh=106b74a84ad6
  • De minimis exemption: https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/series63-050509.asp#:~:text='The%20De%20Minimis'%20exemption%20means,period%20with%20a%20physical%20address.
  • FinCEN intends to apply FBAR to cryptocurrency held offshore: https://www.coindesk.com/fincen-foreign-crypto-exchange-disclosure-rule
  •  

    Backstory:

    • Bitcoin Cash Fork: https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-cash-has-split-into-two-new-blockchains-again

     

    Yield farming and social tokens:

    • https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-yield-farming-beginners-guide
    https://www.cointracker.io/blog/defi-yield-farming-crypto-tax-guide (written by Shehan)
  • Alex Masmej: https://www.coindesk.com/man-who-sells-himself-now-wants-buyers-to-control-his-life
  •  

    Crypto tax guides

    • BlockFi: https://blockfi.com/crypto-tax-laws
  • Coinbase: https://www.coinbase.com/learn/tips-and-tutorials/crypto-and-bitcoin-taxes-US
  • Nerd Wallet: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/bitcoin-taxes

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    UnchainedBy Laura Shin

    • 4.6
    • 4.6
    • 4.6
    • 4.6
    • 4.6

    4.6

    1,185 ratings


    More shows like Unchained

    View all
    The a16z Show by Andreessen Horowitz

    The a16z Show

    1,104 Listeners

    Real Vision: Finance & Investing by Real Vision Podcast Network

    Real Vision: Finance & Investing

    909 Listeners

    CRYPTO 101 by Bryce Paul & Brendan Viehman

    CRYPTO 101

    42 Listeners

    The Breakdown by Blockworks

    The Breakdown

    742 Listeners

    The Pomp Podcast by Anthony Pompliano

    The Pomp Podcast

    1,848 Listeners

    Thinking Crypto News & Interviews by Tony Edward

    Thinking Crypto News & Interviews

    255 Listeners

    What Bitcoin Did by Danny Knowles

    What Bitcoin Did

    277 Listeners

    Bankless by Bankless

    Bankless

    1,048 Listeners

    The Wolf Of All Streets by Scott Melker

    The Wolf Of All Streets

    242 Listeners

    All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg by All-In Podcast, LLC

    All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

    10,192 Listeners

    Empire by Blockworks

    Empire

    167 Listeners

    Coin Stories with Natalie Brunell by Natalie Brunell

    Coin Stories with Natalie Brunell

    452 Listeners

    Raoul Pal: The Journey Man by Real Vision Podcast Network

    Raoul Pal: The Journey Man

    132 Listeners

    Forward Guidance by Blockworks

    Forward Guidance

    275 Listeners

    Bell Curve by Blockworks

    Bell Curve

    33 Listeners