The holidays are upon us, which means we’re all probably thinking about, talking to, and meeting up with more family members than at any other time in the year. And that’s not always easy. “Family by definition is complicated,” says photographer Gillian Laub, whose new book and exhibition called “Family Matters” explores the dynamics within her own tight-knit family, and the political rift they’re still trying to mend. On this episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, while Katie takes a short break, special guest host Alison Roman (chef, cookbook author, “Dining In,” “Nothing Fancy”) steps in to talk with Gillian about the awkward intimacy of photographing her family and how the lessons of Gillian’s personal story transcend the specifics of her “live out loud” relatives. Katie will return in two weeks.

Gillian Laub’s photography book “Family Matters” (Aperture) is out now. Her exhibition of the same name is at the International Center for Photography (ICP) in New York City through Jan. 10, 2022.

Alison Roman is a New York-based cook, writer, and author of the New York Times bestselling “Nothing Fancy” and “Dining In” cookbooks. She is the creator of a bi-weekly YouTube series called Home Movies as well as a weekly newsletter not-so-cleverly titled A Newsletter. You can find her recipes, videos, recommendations and more, at alisoneroman.com.

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