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Family Estrangement, Spiritual Harm & the Ethics of AI in Therapy with Matthias Barker (255)
Hello 2025! Join Matthias Barker in kicking off the year exploring family estrangement, AI in therapy & much more…
In this episode, hosts Ann and Sue sit down with renowned psychotherapist Matthias Barker, who has built a transformative mental health platform regularly impacting over 11 million souls who learn and consume quality mental health information. The conversation weaves through several important themes: the delicate balance of delivering mental health guidance through social media, the complex terrain of parent-child estrangement in modern families, and the lasting impact of religious trauma.
The discussion evolves into an exploration of spirituality in the digital age, including thought-provoking perspectives on artificial intelligence’s role in shaping human consciousness and connection.
This nuanced conversation bridges practical psychological insights with broader questions about human connection in an evolving technological landscape.
“We inherit more than genetics from our families—we inherit patterns, beliefs, and ways of relating. Healing means choosing which ones to keep and which ones to let go of.” – Matthias Barker
Time Stamps for Family Estrangement, Spiritual Harm, & the Ethics of AI in Therapy with Matthias Barker (255)
05:54 Generational perspectives on estrangement
12:10 Understanding emotional dynamics in families
18:12 Spiritual harm and its impact
34:55 The intersection of technology and mental health
45:08 Exploring ethical dilemmas of AI in therapy
About our Guest – Matthias Barker
Matthias is a psychotherapist recognized for his expertise in making complex mental health concepts accessible, with a special focus on parent-child estrangement. He is the CEO of the Trauma Institute which provides clinical training for psychotherapists and education for the general public on healing from trauma. Matthias is widely recognized for his unique approach to making mental health knowledge and skills accessible to the wider public. His ability to translate complex topics into relatable everyday language has empowered millions to heal from their past, repair relationships, and take control of their mental well-being. Through platforms like Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and his top-ranking Spotify podcast, Matthias delivers psychoeducational content to a following of over 4 million people. His innovative blend of engaging content and relevant mental health advice has fostered a vibrant online community centered on healing, personal growth, and moving towards what’s meaningful despite hardship. Aside from his online presence, Matthias is an accomplished author and educator. He has self-published several short books and interactive mental health journals, offering a distinctive trauma-informed approach to topics like grief, motivation, burnout, and gratitude. In addition, he has built a diverse library of interactive general public workshops on themes such as anxiety, relational intimacy, and healing from trauma, further establishing his commitment to sharing knowledge and resources for both clinicians and the general public.
Resources for Family Estrangement, Spiritual Harm, & the Ethics of AI in Therapy with Matthias Barker (255)
Estrangement.com – Sign up here for The Healing Estrangement
MatthiasJBarker.com – Matthias’ website, with resources and other information
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Featured event: Ann and Sue are deep diving into clinical application of their work at the Psychotherapy Networker Symposium – March 20-23, 2025. It’s an incredible conference – they’d love to see you there!
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By Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD
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Hello 2025! Join Matthias Barker in kicking off the year exploring family estrangement, AI in therapy & much more…
In this episode, hosts Ann and Sue sit down with renowned psychotherapist Matthias Barker, who has built a transformative mental health platform regularly impacting over 11 million souls who learn and consume quality mental health information. The conversation weaves through several important themes: the delicate balance of delivering mental health guidance through social media, the complex terrain of parent-child estrangement in modern families, and the lasting impact of religious trauma.
The discussion evolves into an exploration of spirituality in the digital age, including thought-provoking perspectives on artificial intelligence’s role in shaping human consciousness and connection.
This nuanced conversation bridges practical psychological insights with broader questions about human connection in an evolving technological landscape.
“We inherit more than genetics from our families—we inherit patterns, beliefs, and ways of relating. Healing means choosing which ones to keep and which ones to let go of.” – Matthias Barker
Time Stamps for Family Estrangement, Spiritual Harm, & the Ethics of AI in Therapy with Matthias Barker (255)
05:54 Generational perspectives on estrangement
12:10 Understanding emotional dynamics in families
18:12 Spiritual harm and its impact
34:55 The intersection of technology and mental health
45:08 Exploring ethical dilemmas of AI in therapy
About our Guest – Matthias Barker
Matthias is a psychotherapist recognized for his expertise in making complex mental health concepts accessible, with a special focus on parent-child estrangement. He is the CEO of the Trauma Institute which provides clinical training for psychotherapists and education for the general public on healing from trauma. Matthias is widely recognized for his unique approach to making mental health knowledge and skills accessible to the wider public. His ability to translate complex topics into relatable everyday language has empowered millions to heal from their past, repair relationships, and take control of their mental well-being. Through platforms like Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and his top-ranking Spotify podcast, Matthias delivers psychoeducational content to a following of over 4 million people. His innovative blend of engaging content and relevant mental health advice has fostered a vibrant online community centered on healing, personal growth, and moving towards what’s meaningful despite hardship. Aside from his online presence, Matthias is an accomplished author and educator. He has self-published several short books and interactive mental health journals, offering a distinctive trauma-informed approach to topics like grief, motivation, burnout, and gratitude. In addition, he has built a diverse library of interactive general public workshops on themes such as anxiety, relational intimacy, and healing from trauma, further establishing his commitment to sharing knowledge and resources for both clinicians and the general public.
Resources for Family Estrangement, Spiritual Harm, & the Ethics of AI in Therapy with Matthias Barker (255)
Estrangement.com – Sign up here for The Healing Estrangement
MatthiasJBarker.com – Matthias’ website, with resources and other information
Get early access and discounts to things we produce, plus a totally ad-free private feed. In addition, recieve exclusive episodes recorded just for you and have input in topics you would like to learn more about.
Sign up for our premium Neuronerd plan!! Click here!!
Get your copy of Secure Relating here!!
Find Upcoming Events here
Featured event: Ann and Sue are deep diving into clinical application of their work at the Psychotherapy Networker Symposium – March 20-23, 2025. It’s an incredible conference – they’d love to see you there!
Rethinking Attachment – Using the Attachment Spectrum in Clinical Practice
Please support our sponsors for this episode – they keep our podcast free and accessible to all!
Coffee alternative powered by mushrooms! Listeners get 20% off plus a free starter kit. Piquelife.com/tu
Ancient Nutrition is offering 25% off your first order when you go to
AncientNutrition.com/TU
Integrative Attachment Therapy Course Information
Therapists: THIS is our recommended class for the most comprehensive training on attachment out there. Use our link for a discount!
Thanks for listening, friends, & for being on this journey with us!
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