Not a usual title, but it does come with a double meaning. In this episode Cecelia and Nat chat with George Mcencroe - comedian, radio host and owner of the ride share for women, Shebah. They discuss how Shebah came to be after George found herself a single mother of 4 children, the challenges for women in (start up) business, the ongoing struggles of being funny and powerful and the day to day struggles women face. One thing is for sure, you’ll laugh a lot!

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