Fighting Matters

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan from BJJ Mental Models is joined by Jesse Walker of Rough Hands BJJ and attorney/mediator Andrew Burcham for a deep dive into the legal minefield of free speech, particularly how it intersects with combat sports culture and the internet.

What does the First Amendment actually protect? Can private companies limit your speech? Why do so many fighters and fans misunderstand their rights, and what happens when “free speech” is weaponized to shield bigotry?

From Dana White to Gordon Ryan, from hate speech to stochastic terrorism, this episode explores how legal frameworks shape behavior online and on the mats—plus what it means for those navigating both the Jiu-Jitsu community and public discourse today.

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👥 Featuring:

Andrew Burcham – Attorney & Mediator
Jesse Walker ‪@RoughHandsBJJ‬
Steve Kwan ‪@bjjmentalmodels‬

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🧠 Topics We Cover:

• What the First Amendment actually says
• Why free speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences
• The legality of hate speech in the U.S. vs. Canada
• Stochastic terrorism, incitement, and internet mobbing
• Citizens United and how money became “speech”
• How lawfare, venue shopping, and religious freedom collide
• What Jiu-Jitsu can learn from better civic literacy

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📖 Chapters:

00:00 – Intro: Meet Andrew Burcham, attorney & Jiu-Jitsu practitioner
01:15 – Free speech in the U.S. vs. Canada
03:55 – Bryce Mitchell, Dana White, and the misuse of “free speech”
06:24 – What the First Amendment really protects
10:00 – The cake maker case: religion vs. discrimination
14:41 – How venue shopping influences legal outcomes
17:23 – U.S. vs. EU: why American law varies state to state
20:08 – The illusion of blind justice and stacking the courts
25:14 – Social media, incitement, and Brandenburg v. Ohio
29:59 – Internet mobs: the Gordon Ryan effect
32:18 – Stochastic terrorism and platform accountability
35:07 – Hate speech laws in Canada vs. the U.S.
39:37 – Can employers fire you for what you say online?
42:00 – Protected classes colliding: religion vs. gender identity
46:16 – Weaponizing religion in legal challenges
51:18 – Citizens United: when corporations got free speech
55:25 – Buying political power: Elon Musk, TrumpCoin & ROI
58:45 – Cuts to Medicaid: real-world consequences in rural America
01:02:33 – Why Americans misunderstand free speech
01:06:34 – The myth of “free speech absolutism”
01:09:13 – Why some grapplers can’t speak out
01:10:36 – Final thoughts: Be kind, question power, fight for truth

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan from BJJ Mental Models is joined by Stephan Kesting (Grapplearts), Jesse Walker (Rough Hands BJJ), and the incomparable Giles Garcia (Ronin Grappling) for a raw, unscripted deep dive into the political and cultural fault lines running through the Jiu-Jitsu world.

From media manipulation to fascist creep in martial arts, Giles brings the fire with unfiltered commentary on how the right hijacked the narrative, why conspiracies thrive in the fight scene, and what it really means to stand for something as a coach and leader.

If you’ve ever wondered why “just stick to Jiu-Jitsu” is a cop-out, or what role you play in the bigger fight, this one’s for you.

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👥 Featuring:

Giles Garcia – Ronin Grappling
Stephan Kesting – Grapplearts
Jesse Walker – Rough Hands BJJ
Steve Kwan – BJJ Mental Models

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🧠 Topics We Cover:

• The rise of fascism in martial arts culture
• Why conspiracy theories thrive in Jiu-Jitsu
• Media consolidation and fake neutrality
• How coaches can lead without preaching
• Culture war vs. class war in BJJ
• Giles responds to Nazi commenters (for real)
• What real leadership looks like in hard times

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📖 Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions
02:50 The Role of Martial Arts in Society
05:36 Personal Stories and Experiences with Organizations
08:43 Global Perspectives on Societal Threats
11:51 Media Control and Government Overreach
14:41 The Illusion of Left and Right Politics
17:54 Conspiracies and Their Impact on Society
20:24 The Influence of Popular Media Figures
23:11 The Fight Community and Its Dynamics
26:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
36:00 The Rise of New Media and Its Impact
39:02 The Challenge of Truth in Media
42:10 Understanding the Left's Struggles
47:01 The Need for a Political Reset
48:49 Addressing Real Concerns in Society
52:53 Navigating Power Dynamics in Coaching
58:40 The Importance of Safe Spaces in Training
01:01:45 Responding to Controversial Comments

Stephan, Jesse, and Shelby are joined by Eva Schubert from the popular Villains and Virgins Podcast to discuss tactics used by all authoritarian states regardless of whether they are theocratic, fascist, or communist in nature.  They examine Margaret Atwood's 'The Handmaid's Tale' in the context of today's political climate and address the need for protests and collective action in combating these issues while emphasising the need for empathy and humanity in the face of adversity.

Check out Eva's podcast at https://www.villainsandvirgins.com and on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnOZJsYzx1k&list=PLteESDDVIavTfrljkgjFpLlrlCuC3I2dV

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan from BJJ Mental Models is joined by Jesse Walker of Rough Hands BJJ, Mike Mahaffey of Old Bastard BJJ, and mental health advocate David Figueroa-Martinez to challenge the outdated definitions of masculinity still thriving in the Jiu-Jitsu world.

Why are men in Jiu-Jitsu still afraid to talk about emotion?
What’s the cost of performative toughness on and off the mats?
And how can coaches reshape gym culture to support real growth—for everyone?

This isn’t about making BJJ "softer." It’s about making it stronger, by fostering vulnerability, empathy, and honesty in an often hypermasculine sport.

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👥 Featuring:

• Jesse Walker ‪@RoughHandsBJJ‬
• Mike Mahaffey ‪@OldBastardBJJ‬
• David Figueroa-Martinez ‪@dfm.2099‬
• Steve Kwan ‪@bjjmentalmodels‬

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🧠 Topics We Cover:

• Why emotional repression hurts male athletes
• The damage done by “fake toughness” in Jiu-Jitsu
• Why coaching is about more than just technique
• How to build mentally healthy gym culture
• The double standard for male vs female emotion
• Why acknowledging weakness is a sign of strength

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📖 Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
02:58 Exploring Men's Mental Health
05:59 Emotional Intelligence in Men
08:49 Generational Perspectives on Emotions
11:53 The Impact of Media on Masculinity
14:44 The Role of Vulnerability in Leadership
17:35 Navigating Grief and Loss
20:29 The Dichotomy of Progress and Pushback
23:30 The Importance of Authenticity in Coaching
37:28 The Performative Coach
38:55 Vulnerability in Coaching
39:25 The Evolving Stigma of Mental Health
40:39 Public Figures and Mental Health
41:38 Emotional Vulnerability in Leadership
43:41 Relatability in Leadership
45:30 The Mask of Professionalism
47:47 The Role of Jiu-Jitsu in Mental Health
49:03 Emotional Intelligence and Anger
51:15 The Dangers of Anger
53:21 Generational Challenges
56:35 Cultural Backlash and Representation
58:03 The Impact of Social Media
01:00:55 Cyberbullying and Youth Challenges
01:03:41 The Role of Jiu-Jitsu Coaches
01:05:17 Authenticity in Coaching
01:07:22 The True Essence of Coaching
01:09:15 Redefining Success in Coaching
01:11:01 Closing Thoughts on Authenticity

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan from BJJ Mental Models sits down with Mike Mahaffey of Old Bastard BJJ and Jesse Walker of Rough Hands BJJ for a raw conversation about why it matters—now more than ever—for Jiu-Jitsu practitioners to speak out.

Why do so many people say “keep politics out of the gym”? What does it really mean to use your platform responsibly? And how can community, not conflict, be the most powerful form of resistance?

From running inclusive gyms to dealing with trolls, threats, and the myth of “virtue signaling,” this episode is a call to action for anyone who believes that Jiu-Jitsu should stand for something more than just fighting.

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👥 Featuring:

Mike Mahaffey – ‪@oldbastardbjj‬
Jesse Walker – ‪@roughhandsbjj‬
Steve Kwan – ‪@bjjmentalmodels‬

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🧠 Topics We Cover:

• Why speaking out doesn’t hurt your business—sometimes it builds it
• How to use privilege as a force for good
• What “virtue signaling” really means (and why it’s a lazy critique)
• How to build a gym that welcomes everyone
• Why moderating your community isn’t censorship—it’s care
• What to do if you’re “just a white belt” but still want to help

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📖 Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Fighting Matters and the Hosts
01:02 Addressing Criticism in Martial Arts Advocacy
05:07 Personal Experiences and Advocacy in BJJ
11:06 Creating Inclusive Spaces in Martial Arts
15:39 The Impact of Speaking Up on Business and Community
20:47 Countering Virtue Signaling Criticism
26:32 The Importance of Resistance and Community Building
32:48 Finding Your Voice in the Community
38:14 The Importance of Intention
52:02 Courage to Speak Up
56:24 Building Connections and Community

We're doing this episode in light of Ben Askren's battle with MRSA (methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus).

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan from BJJ Mental Models sits down with Jeff Shaw of Bellingham BJJ and Dr. Clayton Green, a board-certified dermatologist and microbiologist, to dig into one of the scariest health threats in combat sports: MRSA.

Why are otherwise healthy grapplers winding up hospitalized with life-threatening infections? Why does doing “everything right” still not guarantee safety? And what can we learn from modern medicine to actually prevent this from happening?

With pro athletes like Ben Askren and John Moxley getting sidelined by staph—and regular gym-goers like Jeff fighting it off with IV antibiotics—this conversation goes beyond hygiene to tackle culture, misinformation, and the war between science and bro science.

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👥 Featuring:

Dr. Clayton Green – Dermatologist & Microbiologist
Jeff Shaw ‪@BellinghamBJJ‬
Steve Kwan ‪@bjjmentalmodels‬

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🧠 Topics We Cover:

• How MRSA actually works (and why it’s deadly)
• Why your gym might still be dangerous, even if it’s clean
• The science behind colonization and contamination
• Best practices for prevention and decolonization
• Why “doing your own research” is making you sick
• What science communicators can learn from pro wrestling

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📖 Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Staph Infections in Combat Sports
02:44 Understanding Staph and MRSA: The Basics
05:33 The Ecology of Staph: Colonization and Transmission
08:30 Identifying Staph Infections in Gyms
11:17 Best Practices for Prevention and Hygiene
13:56 Antibiotics and Treatment: What You Need to Know
16:37 Decolonization: Challenges and Strategies
19:28 Prophylactic Antibiotics: Risks and Considerations
22:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
25:39 The Importance of Advocacy in Medicine
28:12 Understanding Staph Infections and Their Risks
37:15 Probiotics and Antibiotics: What You Need to Know
44:20 Communicating Science Effectively to Combat Misinformation
51:51 The Goalkeeper Syndrome in Society
53:09 The Impact of Denialism on Health
54:25 The Importance of Vaccination and Public Health
56:57 The Role of Emotion in Persuasion
58:25 Urgent Care and Access to Healthcare
01:03:14 The Privilege of Health and Misinformation
01:06:48 The Challenges of Chronic Illness and Research
01:10:35 Community Outreach and the Medical Profession

Neo-Nazis are infiltrating Jiu-Jitsu—and most of us don’t even know it’s happening.

In this episode of Fighting Matters, we’re joined by investigative journalist Mack Lamoureux to expose the rise of “active clubs”: decentralized extremist groups using martial arts like Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai as recruiting tools for white supremacist and neo-Nazi causes.

Mack spent nearly a decade reporting on far-right extremism for VICE News and now works with the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, tracking extremist movements around the world. He explains how these groups organize in secret, how they weaponize the power of community, and how they’re already competing in tournaments and running covert training groups in cities across North America.

This conversation is a wake-up call for anyone who thinks Jiu-Jitsu is immune to radicalization—and a roadmap for how we push back.

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👥 Featuring:

Mack Lamoureux – Investigative Journalist
Jesse Walker ‪@RoughHandsBJJ‬
Mike Mahaffey ‪@OldBastardBJJ‬
Steve Kwan ‪@bjjmentalmodels‬

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🧠 Topics We Cover:

• What are active clubs—and how do they recruit?
• How extremist groups use martial arts to radicalize
• Why community is both a powerful tool and a dangerous weapon
• The terrifying overlap between fight culture and fascism
• What coaches and gym owners can do to fight back

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📖 Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to the Conversation
01:28 Understanding Active Clubs
05:11 Recruitment Tactics of Active Clubs
08:33 Training for a Race War
10:50 The Nature of Active Clubs
13:31 Community and Cult-like Tactics
15:29 Evolution of Active Clubs
20:41 Decentralized Structure and Terrorism
23:08 Identifying Active Clubs
26:27 The Power of Community Influence
31:14 Normalization of Extremism in Jiu-Jitsu
33:20 The Ethical Decline in Society
35:43 Understanding the Overton Window
41:13 The Role of Community in Combatting Extremism
49:46 Mental Health and Coping with Dark Subjects
54:48 The Power of Local Influence

Luke Thomas just appeared on The Daily Show with Jordan Klepper to talk about how the UFC has become a tool of radicalisation for the MAGA movement, so we invited him onto Fighting Matters to dig a little deeper. You can watch the original segment on Jordan Klepper Fingers the Pulse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePbMNq8m7Jw

Follow Luke Thomas on his Morning Kombat show here: https://www.youtube.com/c/MorningKombat

And check out Luke's Substack here: https://lthomas.substack.com/

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan and Stephan Kesting are joined by scientist and author Kristi Charish to investigate how Jiu-Jitsu became a hotbed for pseudoscience, supplement scams, and influencer grifts.

We explore how a culture of male insecurity and anti-intellectualism has opened the floodgates to misinformation—fueled by algorithm-chasing gurus and podcast personalities more interested in profit than truth. From testosterone fads and supplement sponsors to sunning your testicles (yes, really), we unpack the deep societal forces that make grapplers uniquely vulnerable to snake oil.

If you’ve ever been told that breathing through one nostril will double your growth hormone, this episode is for you.

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👥 Featuring:

Kristi Charish – Scientist & Novelist
Stephan Kesting ‪@StephanKesting‬
Steve Kwan ‪@bjjmentalmodels‬

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🧠 Topics We Cover:

• Why Jiu-Jitsu is especially vulnerable to pseudoscience
• The myth of the supplement “quick fix”
• How science actually works (and why grifters hate it)
• Why confidence sells better than expertise
• The parasocial trap of podcast influencers
• What “adaptogens” actually mean (hint: nothing)

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📖 Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:06 Kristi's Science Background and Transition to Fiction
04:25 The Challenge of Science Misinformation
10:03 The Role of Influencers in Misinformation
16:02 Regulation of Supplements vs. Prescription Drugs
24:03 Understanding Scientific Research and Publication
38:32 The Nature of Expertise and Certainty in Science
46:54 The Risks of Superfoods and Supplements
48:46 Trust in Science and Misinformation
50:19 The Dangers of Distrust in Institutions
53:13 The Impact of Influencers on Health Perception
01:02:47 Misinformation Targeting Young Men
01:09:44 The Dangers of Male Beauty Standards
01:19:27 Improving Science Literacy in Society