No one is “grateful” for the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent quarantine life. AND, also, there have been things that have happened during—and as a result of—it that, well, we might really be thankful for.

In this week’s show, Kate and Colby discuss navigating that tension. Of honoring and holding space for life’s Lemons, but also being grateful for the Lemonade.

PLUS: We ask for your help deciding how much Christmas music is enough/too much?