Fire Protection Podcast

0:01 - Intro
2:38 - Lee Kaiser Introduction
4:08 - Lee’s FSSA Experience
5:45 - Training for Specialty Suppression
7:02 - Dealing With Special Hazards
10:40 - Lee’s Top-3 Issues in Fire Protection
15:21 - Jarret Ryan’s Introduction
16:25 - Protegis’ Sales Methodology
18:30 - Protegis’ History With FSSA
23:29 - Jarret’s Initiatives for Protegis
25:10 - Todd Stevens’ Introduction
25:58 - The Global Outreach Initiative
29:01 - Todd’s Experience as President During COVID
32:38 - Outro

2:11 - Intro
3:38 - Bill Introduces Himself
5:21 - Who Does Vehicle Suppression?
6:36 - What Vehicles are We Talking About?
7:29 - Key Off-Road Markets
8:29 - Key Over-The-Road Markets
9:20 - Regulations For These Markets
10:55 - Goal of Vehicle Suppression
13:06 - What These Fires Look Like
14:19 - How These Systems Work
18:41 - Wet, Dry, & Gaseous Systems
22:37 - The Kodiak Brand
24:53 - Dealing With Bus Fires
27:49 - Gas Detection on Trash Trucks
29:16 - Timeline of Electric Vehicle Growth
32:53 - Fire Suppression of Lithium-Ion Batteries
36:11 - Preventing Lithium-Ion Battery Runaways
37:21 - Early-Warnings in Private Electric Vehicles
40:08 - Looking Beyond Electric Vehicles
43:37- Quick Response Round
48:04 - Closing Thoughts

TIMELINE:

Intro (:01)
Coming Up in 2022 (1:32)
CONTEST: Inspect Point's Ugly Sweaters & Ugly Deficiencies (1:40)
Hello John and Drew Sets This Episode's Agenda (2:11)
Meet WESCO (3:50)
Born & Raised in Fire Protection (6:57)
Family Portable Fire Extinguisher Biz Sold to Kidde (7:25)
From a Parts Business to an Importing and Recycling Company (8:19)
President of the FSSA & Involved in NAFED (9:32)
Did Todd Stevens Cause COVID?  (10:40)
What is AIM, What Are Clean Agents, and Where Are They Used? (11:56)
Halon 1301 is a Depleting Ozone Agent (13:00)
Treaty Banning Production of Ozone Depleting Agents (13:29)
Recycled Halon (14:20)
Replacing Halon (15:04)
3M & NOVEC (5:31)
Some Agents Aren't Ozone Depleting But Add to Climate Change (16:31)
Phasing Out HFCs (17:00)
American Innovation in Manufacturing and Competitiveness Act (AMAC)  (17:32)
A Phasing Down  (18:00)
There's Always Sand & Water (18:34)
NOVEC vs. FM200 (18:49)
Dupont Says... (19:03)
AIM Is the Law (19:36)
An 85% Decrease of HFCs Over 15 Years (20:23)
HFC Allocation (21:24)
Allocations Are Based on Global Warming Index (22:07)
Fire Suppression Agents Have Some of the Highest Global Warming Percentages (23:17)
Hard For Manufacturers to Know Cost and Availability of HFCs  (25:08)
Recent Manufacturer Announcements: December 2021! (25:45)
Sustainability For HFCs is a Huge Issue (27:00)
If HFC System Goes Off, It Is Reportable (29:05)
HFC is in Hospice (31:00)
The Halon Country Club (32:02)
Industries Have Their Allocations (34:00)
Drew Uses Bear Spray? (34:42)
Is the Special Hazard Industry Growing or Shrinking? (37:25)
Hospice Theory (40:15)
HCFC Was Controlled Before HFC Was (40:45)
New Streaming Agent in Aviation (43:56)
BTP in All-New Planes (45:00)
Touching on Foam (45:30)
Lithium-Ion Battery Fires (46:54)
Nothing Puts Them Out: Get People Out & Let It Burn (48:50)
Will You See John or Drew in a Tesla? (49:25)
Quick Response Round (52:25)
Cars: 60s Shelby Cobra or Late 60s Corvette? (52:40)
Friends & Family: To Tesla or Not To Tesla? (53:15)
Craziest Installation: Use or Location (54:25)
Craziest Deficiency - Like Inspect Point's Contest! (55:40)
Biggest Issues in Our Industry? (56:56)
Promote and Help Tech Schools (59:10)
Lithium-Ion Battery Fires (1:00:26)
Fire Protection Manufacturers and R&D (1:01:15)
Innovation is on the Software Side (1:03:17)
North or South Jersey? (1:03:39)
Where the Parkway Crosses the Turnpike (1:04:10)
John Mackey & the Pizza Battle (1:05:20)
Where Did You Live in NYC? (1:06:43)
Wrap Up (1:07:40)
Drew's Outro (1:08:20)

TIMELINE:

Intro (:01)
Setting Up (1:09)
Drew Sets the Agenda for the Episode  (1:55)
Who is Hampshire Fire Protection?  (2:09)
Hampshire Fire History (2:16)
Starting in Sprinklers (3:20)
Purchasing and Integrating a Fire Extinguisher Company (3:48)
Purchasing and Integrating a Fire Alarm Company (3:03)
Jimmy Joins (4:08)
Different Divisions in a Family Owned Company (4:38)
One-Stop Shop... (5:14)
We Don't Clean Kitchen Hoods!  (6:08)
We Won't do your Taxes or Clean your Suits, either  (6:38)
We Only Want to Do What We Do Best (6:58)
From Larry Thibodeau and his Truck to 180 Employees in Various Divisions (7:12)
Before and After (8:29)
Higher Margin (9:00)
No Massive Risk (9:10)
Before Inspect Point, We used Paper and Homemade PDF forms (9:38)
PDF Forms Were A Pain in the A@@  (11:18)
We Had to do Something Better (12:24)
Tried to Do Their own Software (12:52)
Was Still in Development and Incorporated Hampshire Fire's Suggestions into the Software (13:28)
Inspect Point Respects the Voice of the Customer (13:48)
Inspect Point Became more Powerful in two years : Great Evolution! (14:18)
Amerex and Other Partnerships (12:20)
Viking (15:33)
Proposals for Deficiencies and Regular Service Work and Solely for All Sprinkler Service (16:01)
Inspect Point is Always Adding Great New Features (16:52)
Anything powerful has a Learning Curve, but it is worth it (17:03)
You can Make Inspect Point What you Want it to Be - Great Options (17:57)
Inspect Point Gives You Bay 10x's What you Put into It (17:55) 
Can Put information All over the Place! (19:31)
Primary Metric - Deficiency Quote Estimator, and it had more than Doubled the 1st year  (20:38)
In August, the Deficiency Estimator Reached Their Goal For the Year! (20:58)
With All the Info into Inspect Point you can track all these ROIs (21:53)
Inspect Point Has Connected all our Various Divisions (22:40)
Inspect Point Has Streamlined Our Ability to Get Quotes out & Service Work Done  (24:09) 
Everything in One Place (24:33)
Can Get All the Business on the Table (25:18)
What Feature Would Hampshire Fire Like Added? (26:37)
Balancing Adding Features With Overdoing it (29:53)
Inspect Point is Great at Voice of the Customer (31:08)
Customer Success and Tech Support People Are Enthusiastic and Patient (31:44)
Go Jennifer! (32:53)
How to Convey to the Industry How much Inspect Point can Transform Their Business (33:53)
Double Service Sales in One Year - Hampshire is the Second Company to say this (34:20)
Get  into the Nooks and Crannies (35:02)
After the First Year it Was Plug and Play (35:08)
We Do All Dry Trips this Summer (35:38)
Techs LOVE it (36:48)
Facebook Groups Give Great Feedback (37:08)
If its not Usable on the Ground, its not Usable (37:48)
A Professionally Made Program Makes everything Look Better  - Adds a Sense of Pride (38:08)
Psyched About Amerex (39:08)
With QR Codes, We sped up the Inspection Process of Fire Extinguishers From 5 minutes to 20 Seconds (40:54)
Wrap Up (41:08)
 

TIMELINE:
Introductions (:12)
Who is Pierce Fire Protection?  (:45)
AFSA Trade Show and Inspect Point (1:11)
Who is Zach Pierce? (2:21)
Dad Was a Sprinkler Fitter (3:22)
From a Sprinkler Fitting Company to a Full Service Provider (3:40)
A New Recurring ITM Revenue Model (4:19)
Good Structure for Staying Organized (4:48)
The Inspection Drives Everything Else (5:20)
Inspect Point Transformed Pierce Fire Protection's Business Model (5:27)
From 2-3 Techs Only Doing Tests to Everything in Fire Protection  (6:04)
As Fast as You can Cycle Through the Cycle from Inspection Through Invoicing - the Better Your Revenue Will Be (11:10)
Runs Itself Other Than Doing the Inspections! (7:22)
Easy To Trace and Track Everything (7:35)
What do Techs Think of Inspect Point? (7:55)
Techs Don't Even Have to Come into the Office! (8:43)
Automation and Other New Features in Inspect Point (9:18)
Proposals & Work Orders Were a Game Changer (9:33)
In 13 Months, Service Sales More Than Doubled (9:43)
Inspect Point Acts like a CRM (11:27)
Has Pierce's Entire Sales Funnel (11:40)
Customer Portal as a Marketing Tool (12:31)
Can Manage All Your Building's Fire Related Issues (13:36)
Amerex Partnership & QR Code (15:02)
Wrap It Up (15:45)
Fall Preview (16:17)

TIMELINE:
Introductions (1:35)
What is the American Fire Sprinkler Association (AFSA?) (3:09)
Meet John Denhardt, P.E., FSFPE, VP of engineering and technical services for the American Fire Sprinkler Association (4:20)
Between John and Kevin they are on 40 NFPA Committees (4:11)
Why it is Important to be on Committees (4:40)
Meet Kevin Hall, M.Eng., P.E., ET, CWBSP, PMSFPE (5:00)
John & Kevin Bring Real World Sprinkler Contractor Knowledge With Them (6:39)
Theory is Great! But, it Has to Work in the Real World  (6:49)
ITM Training (7:30)
What is Coming Up - the NFPA Tech Meeting (8:01)
NITMAN on NFPA13 (9:37)
Is John Testing Kevin? (9:52)
The NITMAN becomes a CAM (10:26)
Three Big CAMS (11:10)
Biggest CAM to AFSA (12:00)
The History of this Water Supply CAM (12:06)
Requiring an Adjustment to the Water Supply (12:30)
Should Not be the Contractor's Responsibility (14:00)
Where Should the Liability Fall? (15:20)
Location, Location, Location (16:33)
If Accepted as is - Cost of installation Would Go Up (17:05)
The Lawyers Would Have Fun (18:10)
There Goes the Price and There Goes theTimeline (18:30)
It Isn't Even a Safety Factor (18:48)
Any NFPA Member can Vote on it (20:10)
Strike the Language! Please Vote in Favor of the CAM! (20:40)
Please Educate Yourself on these Issues (20:50)
Voting Guide (21:08)
Review the Issues and See How They Affect YOU (21:21)
Another One the AFSA is Against - Sprinkler in Elevator Hoist Way (22:47)
Elevator CAM Acception = Giant Black Hole (23:40)
Remove Unintended Affects (24:17)
One More CAM that Causes Confusion - 9 vs 12 Sprinklers (26:21)
People Can Vote Virtually (29:09)
Uncle Sam Needs YOU! (32:06)
What is Coming Up in NFPA 25? (33:35)
2023 Version Second Draft is Almost Ready for Presenting (34:04)
Quick Response Round! (37:09)
Want to Meet John's Little Friend? (37:18)
Kevin Must Rank Fire Protection Schools! (38:40)
Three Inspect Point Co-Founders Went To RPI (39:00)
Sprinkler Head Testing Frequency in NFPA25? (39:16)
50 Years is a Long Time! (43:10)
Where Can We Find You Guys? (43:43)
VOTE! (48:00)
LIVE from Atlantic City! (48:15)
Wrap Ups (57:28)

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TIMELINE:
Introduction (0:16)
Catch The Fire Protection Podcast LIVE at NAFED! (1:29)
Matt Rice and Andreas Huber Introduce Themselves (2:34)
Love Talkin' Fire Protection Systems, Compliance, Jurisdictions, & 1st Responders (4:47)
First of its Kind! (6:16)
Getting Important Information to 1st Responders (8:30)
Operational Information Gap (9:14)
Is Their Fire Protection System Even Working? (11:30)
1st Responders Would Like to Know What They are Getting into (12:10)
1st Responders Dashboard (13:11)
Gray Area: What is Given to His About Fire Protection System Conditions? (16:29)
How Many Jurisdictions Using Both Tools? (17:50)
What About 2020 and So Far in 2021? (19:00)
The "Gift" of Covid (28:56)
Who Owns the Data? (36:38)
Hurdles for 2021? (42:21)
What About Insurance Agencies? (47:40)
Hurdles are Opportunities (48:49)
It's A Lot of Work to get Good Data (50:19)
It Has to be More Than Just Technology - Be A Problem Solver (53:20)
Quick Round - Golf Version! (59:40)
Matt Throws Down! (59:47)
 

TIMELINE:
Introductions (2:34)
Meet Victoria Hutchinson (2:46)
Meet Bart van Leeuwen (4:20)
Smart Fire Fighting (6:04)
Software Platforms & Solutions for AHJs in US (7:28)
What is the NFPA Research Foundation? (8:26)
Four People Covering 50 Topics at Once (9:30)
Bringing Research Into Practice (10:10)
Projects the NFPA Research Foundation is Working On (11:36)
Anyone Can Get Involved --- like YOU!  (12:29)
What does ITM Stand For? (15:51)
Why is This Needed? (16:08)
Did This All Stem From Fire Pumps? (17:48)
Everyone Wants the Analytics (20:25)
Fire Pump Churn Testing (22:48)
Why Are NFPA 25 Meetings Funny? (23:42)
Data Grabbing Is Tough (27:46)
Who Owns the Data? (30:49)
Sharing the Data (35:09)
Performance Based ITM (36:46)
Collected Data from 40,000 Fire Inspections (40:32)
Will the Results of that Data Analysis be Game Changing? (43:05)
Report of Project (43:10)
Next Steps (43:43)
Can We Create a Uniform Data Model From Diverse Streams of Data? (44:26)
Will the NFPA25 Update in May '21 Use This Data? (46:34)
Get Involved! (47:40)
New Direction Coming  (48:41)
The Data Drinking Game! (48:48)
Quick Response Round! (49:30)
Nerd Question Alert (50:39)
Shout Out to Jeff Norton!(51:25)
NFPA Bedtime Stories for Victoria (52:40)
Novec 1230 Systems (54:05)
There Will Never Be A Fire At A "Normal" Person's House (55:10)
Fire Captain Bart Has Great Stories Not Suitable for Podcasts! (55:35)
Where Can People Find You? (55:40)
Wrap Ups (57:28)

Discussed in this Episode: NFPA Research Foundation, NFPA Codes and Standards, Inspection Data Collection, Fire Fighting, Emerging Technology in Fire Protection, Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance, Fire Pump Performance, Analytics, Fair Data Practices