On today's First Up pod - the MP for Te Atatu, Phil Twyford, who represented the electorate when dairy owner Arun Kumar was killed in 2014 met his son on Sunday and is with us; Kaipara's mayor defends his decision to ban Karakia from council meetings; and as people are asked to reign in their spending to bring down inflation, we speak to a woman who doesn't need the Reserve Bank to tell her to have a thrifty Christmas - Lyn Webster from 'Pig Tits and Parsley Sauce' shares her pressie ideas. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!