Phil Ord, who's been advocating for nuclear for way longer than I have, joined me to talk about how he became a "nukebro." We also talk about climate change, renewable propaganda, and how the nuclear movement has grown since Phil got into it.

Note: we recorded this a week before Diablo Canyon was saved.

Check out Phil's stuff:

https://twitter.com/FissionPhil

https://www.americansfornuclearenergy.org/

https://twitter.com/Americans4Nukes

https://www.facebook.com/americans.for.nuclear.energy/

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