What does “healthy” really mean? In this episode of Don’t Hold Back, Nozibele Qamngana-Mayaba talks to fitness coach Kopano Mokhele, who deliberately gained 25 kilos — and is now losing it again — to better understand what his clients face.

Kopano shares honest lessons about food cravings, mental health, and why BMI doesn’t always apply to African body types. He also reveals five simple steps anyone can take to start a healthier lifestyle - from moving in ways you enjoy, to making one food change, to tracking progress and staying motivated.

Authentic, funny, and packed with practical advice, this is your reminder that health is a journey, not a deadline. Catch up with our host Nozibele · More information about this podcast · The 77 Percent (DW Africa)