For Real, Though

For Real, Though

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  • Alex Hutchinson: How to Handle the Physical and Mental Pain of Running Better -R4R 054
    I’ve found that one thing you most enjoy learning about is the mental side of running.  This week’s podcast gets us back again to the subject but this time to the science behind training and racing rather than the psychological side.    The episode will cover the 5 areas of the book, Pain, Muscles, Oxygen, Heat, Thirst and Fueling.
    Alex and I explore why some athletes are able to push themselves harder than others can?  What defines our limits and how (or can) we actually change them? Do recreational runners experience pain sooner in a race than the elites?  What learning processes can we employ to help us deal with pain and other discomforts?
    Alex discusses pacing how do we learn to ration our energy and how does it change from childhood to adulthood?  What can we learn from 8-yr old runners?  Is our urge to slow down real?  How do our expectations of our performance at a given pace impact how we feel about the level of pain we are experiencing during a race and our level of effort overall.
    Alex also shows us how we can learn from both good days and bad days and how much mental fatigue can change the perception of what good days and bad days are.  I was amazed to hear him say that sometimes there is not all that much you can learn from a bad day, sometimes it is just a bad day.  What can you do to help control the mental stresses?  Do you get better at handling changes and stresses?  Can you plan in some bad days to learn from?
    Alex gives us his impression of the Sub-2 project and what we have learned from it and just how much inspiration we can take from the human performance of Kipchoge.
    Are you ready to learn about what we can do about our limits and and what we can do at our ability levels?
    Today’s Guest
    Alex Hutchinson
    Alex is an award-winning journalist who writes about the science of endurance for both Runner’s World and Outside.  He has also covered Adventure Travel for the New York Times, and earned a National Magazine award for energy reporting with Popular Mechanics.  He resides in Toronto with his wife and children.
    Alex holds a master’s in journalism from Columbia, a Ph.D. in physics from Cambridge, and he did his post-doctoral research with the National Security Agency.   He started out as a physicist.  He was a middle and long-distance runner on the Canadian national team, and also dabbled in cross country.
    His latest book, which came out in February 2018, is ENDURE: Mind, Body and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance
    What you will learn about:

    * The impact of wearables on performance


    * Learning to handle pain- both the mental aspects and physical aspects


    * What you learn from both good days and bad days


    * How smiling can help you race better


    * What is a stile?


    * A peek inside his role on the Nike Sub-2 hour project and his feelings about the outcome

    Listen to the Running for Real Podcast here:
    Inspirational Quotes:
    Sometimes I should have thrown caution to the wind and just gone for it.  There is a role for planning but sometimes we should just run as hard as we can.
    The way we pace ourselves reflects how we approach challenges overall.
    Sometimes you just have a bad day and it means nothing.
    Resources:
    Last week’s episode on my update about life with Bailey
    Tina’s Podcast Series

    * Beginners
    * Mental Toughness Training
    59 min
  • Life as a Mother Runner with Bailey Grace: R4R 053
    I am officially a mother runner, and after a three-month hiatus from recording, it is time to update you on how my life has changed since my daughter Bailey was brought into this world.
    Hear about the ups and downs of life with a newborn, how my return to running has progressed since I was cleared to start running…and how different it is now I cannot put my running first.
    I also talk about the struggles with learning that your body is no longer your own, you are sore in places you didn’t know you could be.
    If you have ever wondered what it is really like to go from elite runner, who can put running as number one to mother who has to squeeze a run in at any moment, I share all the things I had wondered about.
    Today’s Guest
    It’s Me!
    In this solo episode, I talk about my experience as a mother and how I have handled the lack of sleep, crying baby, and return to running postpartum.
    Listen to the Running for Real Podcast
    Resources Mentioned
    Last week’s interview with Dave Collins 
    Running for Real Strength Training Program
    Hypnobabies (practice for childbirth)
    Podcast Series

    * Beginners
    * Mental Toughness Training
    * Marathon Training
    * Coming Back From Injuries
    * Running Nutrition
    * Running Through and After Pregnancy

    Tina on Instagram
    Tina on facebook
    Tina’s Community: Running for Real Superstars
    Tina on Strava
    Thank you to my new running buddy VI and favorite recovery product BodyHealth for sponsoring this episode of Running for Real.
    VI is there to encourage you on tough days, congratulate you on the days you crush it, and remind you of your goals when you need it. You can enter to win your own VI by visiting GetVI.com/running4real

    When I was running 90 miles a week as a pro, I would take 5-10 BodyHealth Perfect Amino tablets every day without fail. They helped me recover faster, and feel better. Now they have Perfect Amino XP, which makes it even easier. Get 10% off at Bodyhealth.com using coupon code TINA10
    Click the banner for more information.

    Thanks for Listening! I hope you enjoyed today’s episode.
    To share your thoughts:
    Leave a note in the comment section below.
    Join the Running for Real Facebook Group and share your thoughts on the episode (or future guests you would like...
    35 min
  • Tina Muir Update: Life as a Mother Runner with Bailey Grace - R4R 053

    I am officially a mother runner, and after a three month hiatus from recording the Running for Real podcast, it is time to update you on how my life has changed since my daughter Bailey was brought into this world.

    Hear about the ups and downs of life with a newborn, how my return to running has progressed since I was cleared to start running...and how different it is now I cannot put my running first.

    I also talk about the struggles with learning that your body is no longer your own, you are sore in places you didn't know you could be. 

    If you have ever wondered what it is really like to go from elite runner, who can put running as number one to mother who has to squeeze a run in at any moment, I share all the things I had wondered about.

    Today's Guest

    It's Me!

    In this solo episode, I talk about my experience as a mother and how I have handled the lack of sleep, crying baby, and return to running postpartum.

    Resources Mentioned

     

    Last week's interview with Dave Collins 

    Running for Real Strength Training Program

    Hypnobabies (practice for childbirth)

    Podcast Series

    • Beginners
    • Mental Toughness Training
    • Marathon Training
    • Coming Back From Injuries
    • Running Nutrition
    • Running Through and After Pregnancy

    Tina on Instagram

    Tina on facebook

    Tina's Community: Running for Real Superstars

    Tina on Strava

     

     

    Thank you to my new running buddy VI and favorite recovery product BodyHealth for sponsoring this episode of Running for Real.

    VI is there to encourage you on tough days, congratulate you on the days you crush it, and remind you of your goals when you need it. You can enter to win your own VI by visiting GetVI.com/running4real

    When I was running 90 miles a week as a pro, I would take 5-10 BodyHealth Perfect Amino tablets every day without fail. They helped me recover faster, and feel better. Now they have Perfect Amino XP, which makes it even easier. Get 10% off at Bodyhealth.comusing coupon code TINA10

    35 min
  • Dave Collins: The Best Coaches are Like the Best Chefs, Not Following Recipes -R4R 052
    In this episode, we shift our focus from the runner to the person behind the scenes, the runner’s coach.
    We discuss the unseen process of coaching.
    Dave explains the difference between outcome focused vs process focused training.
    He gives examples of soft skills coaches can use with their athletes to draw the best out of them.
    Dave explains the balancing that needs to be done for multi-events to get the best from each event.
    We discuss the pressures recreational runners feel vs. professional runners experience.
    He shares his experience as the performance director for the British Athletics.
    Today’s Guest
    Dave Collins
    Dave Collins is a performance psychologist.  Formerly the performance director with British Athletics, he is currently the director of the Institute of Coaching and Performance.  He also works and does research for his company, Grey Matters For Performance.
    What You Will Learn About

    * What really is involved with coaching.
    * What professional judgment and decision making means to a coach.
    * What Dave means by content, knowledge, wisdom.
    * What you can do mentally to improve your performance.
    * What Dave’s advice is to parents who have a child with talent and enjoy the sport.

    Listen to the Running for Real Podcast
    Inspirational Quotes
    The basic point of being a high-level, a being coach at any level actually, is in the decisions you make.
    It becomes quite important to, again, keep the coach focused and the athlete focused on the process.  What are you doing to get better?  What are you doing to get there?
    A coach is more like a chef than a cook. They’re not following a recipe.
    The good coach is a chef, but the good coach is also a conductor.  And she or he sets up the  system, the orchestra if you will, for all these different bits to play together to optimally benefit.
    One of the characteristics of good athletes is that they have a pretty good and accurate sense of how well they’ll do on any particular day.  And they’ll be able to rationalize, that was a good performance, that was a bad performance.
    When push comes to shove, it’s the thing between your ears rather than the thing in your chest that’s going to determine how well you do.
    Runners can have their own wisdom, cos lord knows they know themselves better than anybody else.
    Resources Mentioned
    Last week’s interview with Camille Heron
    Grey Matters Performance
    Dave on Twitter
    Thank you to Run Angel and favorite recovery product BodyHealth for sponsoring this episode of Running for Real. Remember you can use coupon code running4real for 10% off at RunAngel.com
    When I was running 90 miles a week as a pro, I would take 5-10 BodyHealth Perfect Amino tablets every day without fail. They helped me recover faster, and feel better. Now they have Perfect Amino XP, which makes it even easier. Get 10% off at Bodyhealth.com using coupon code TINA10
    Click the banner for more information.

    Thanks for Listening! I hope you enjoyed today’s episode.
    To share your thoughts:
    Leave a note in the comment section below.
    Join the Running for Real Facebook Group and share your thoughts on the episode (or future guests you would like to hear from)
    56 min
  • Dave Collins: The Best Coaches are Like the Best Chefs, Not Following Recipes -R4R 052

    In this episode, we shift our focus from the runner to the person behind the scenes, the runner’s coach.

    We discuss the unseen process of coaching.

    Dave explains the difference between outcome focused vs process focused training.

    He gives examples of soft skills coaches can use with their athletes to draw the best out of them.

    Dave explains the balancing that needs to be done for multi-events to get the best from each event.

    We discuss the pressures recreational runners feel vs. professional runners experience.

    He shares his experience as the performance director for the British Athletics.

    Today's Guest

    Dave Collins

    Dave Collins is a performance psychologist.  Formerly the performance director with British Athletics, he is currently the director of the Institute of Coaching and Performance.  He also works and does research for his company, Grey Matters For Performance.

    What You Will Learn About
    • What really is involved with coaching.
    • What professional judgment and decision making means to a coach.
    • What Dave means by content, knowledge, wisdom.
    • What you can do mentally to improve your performance.
    • What Dave’s advice is to parents who have a child with talent and enjoy the sport.

     

    Inspirational Quotes

    The basic point of being a high-level, a being coach at any level actually, is in the decisions you make.

    It becomes quite important to, again, keep the coach focused and the athlete focused on the process.  What are you doing to get better?  What are you doing to get there?

    A coach is more like a chef than a cook. They’re not following a recipe.

    The good coach is a chef, but the good coach is also a conductor.  And she or he sets up the  system, the orchestra if you will, for all these different bits to play together to optimally benefit.

    One of the characteristics of good athletes is that they have a pretty good and accurate sense of how well they’ll do on any particular day.  And they’ll be able to rationalize, that was a good performance, that was a bad performance.

    When push comes to shove, it’s the thing between your ears rather than the thing in your chest that’s going to determine how well you do.

    Runners can have their own wisdom, cos lord knows they know themselves better than anybody else.

    Resources Mentioned

    Last week's interview with Camille Heron

    Grey Matters Performance

    Dave on Twitter

    Thank you to Run Angel and favorite recovery product BodyHealth for sponsoring this episode of Running for Real.

     Run Angel keeps you safe, gives you the peace of mind to know that even if you were in danger, your loved ones could be alerted of your whereabouts in minutes, and an alarm the volume of a rock concert would be sent out to get you help. Use coupon code running4real for 10% off at RunAngel.com

    When I was running 90 miles a week as a pro, I would take 5-10 BodyHealth Perfect Amino tablets every day without fail. They helped me recover faster, and feel better. Now they have Perfect Amino XP, which makes it even easier. Get 10% off at Bodyhealth.com using coupon code TINA10

    56 min
  • Running for Real Superstars: Let’s Meet The Community -R4R 051
    We get to meet the best of the best. The professionals. The scientists. The psychologists. All the experts, motivational, inspirational, driven runners we could ever want to learn from. But what about those everyday runners. You know, the ones like you and I. The ones who are out there at 5am getting their runs in before the kids wake up, or the ones who are not up at the front of the pack.
    That is who I have on today. Runners from our community, talking about their running experiences and what running has taught them. Just because they are not professionals, doesnt mean their stories aren’t interesting, in fact, in some ways, everyday runners deserve more credit for finding the time when it would be easy to find an excuse.
    The Running for Real Community has become a wonderful place to hang out, get to know other runners, be inspired by other runners, and just feel at home. Today you get to meet some of the most recognizable names, and have a little fun.
    Today’s Guests

    * Eddie Valen
    * Peg DeBiasi
    * David Skytte
    * Sarah Williarty
    * Pete Davy
    * Lauren Stern-Kalamar

    What You Will Learn About
    Listen to the Running for Real Podcast
    Resources Mentioned
    Last week’s interview with Kara Goucher
    Running for Real Superstars Community 
    Missy (Lauren’s dog on Instagram)
    Lauren’s dog themed wedding
    A Royal Corgi Tea Party
    Mashable article on Missy 
    Thank you to my running buddy VI and favorite recovery product BodyHealth for sponsoring this episode of Running for Real.
    VI is there to encourage you on tough days, congratulate you on the days you crush it, and remind you of your goals when you need it. You can enter to win your own VI by visiting GetVI.com/running4real

    When I was running 90 miles a week as a pro, I would take 5-10 BodyHealth Perfect Amino tablets every day without fail. They helped me recover faster, and feel better. Now they have Perfect Amino XP, which makes it even easier. Get 10% off at Bodyhealth.com using coupon code TINA10
    Click the banner for more information.

    Thanks for Listening! I hope you enjoyed today’s episode.
    To share your thoughts:
    Leave a note in the comment section below.
    Join the Running for Real Facebook Group and share your thoughts on the episode (or future guests you would like to hear from)
    Share this show on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or Pinterest.
    To help out the show:
    Leave an honest
    1 hr 19 min
  • Running for Real Superstars: Let's Meet The Community -R4R 051

    We get to meet the best of the best. The professionals. The scientists. The psychologists. All the experts, motivational, inspirational, driven runners we could ever want to learn from. But what about those everyday runners. You know, the ones like you and I. The ones who are out there at 5am getting their runs in before the kids wake up, or the ones who are not up at the front of the pack.

    That is who I have on today. Runners from our community, talking about their running experiences and what running has taught them. Just because they are not professionals, doesnt mean their stories aren't interesting, in fact, in some ways, everyday runners deserve more credit for finding the time when it would be easy to find an excuse.

    The Running for Real Community has become a wonderful place to hang out, get to know other runners, be inspired by other runners, and just feel at home. Today you get to meet some of the most recognizable names, and have a little fun.

    Today's Guests
    • Eddie Valen
    • Peg DeBiasi
    • David Skytte
    • Sarah Williarty
    • Pete Davy
    • Lauren Stern-Kalamar
     
    1 hr 19 min
  • Kara Goucher: You Only Need One Good Day for Your Life to Turn Around -R4R 050
    Role models are often people you see from afar and only hope to meet.  In this episode I meet and talk with my role model, Kara Goucher, and see the real and vulnerable side of her.
    This episode is for runners, mother runners, and those who know a mother runner.
    We dive right into running and motherhood.  Kara shares with us her thoughts on
    starting a family while having a successful running career, and how becoming a mother has changed her.
    She shares her personal experiences of lack of support and roadblocks with races and her sponsors.
    Kara gives us some advice about coming back after having a baby.  She shares what she would have done differently with her comeback.
    We discuss the issue of her body weight that has been a topic throughout her career before and after her child’s birth.
    Kara recalls her experience running at the Olympic trials and describes what she was thinking during the last 4 miles.
    We discuss her reporting the Nike Oregon Project to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency and the possible repercussions it could cause her.
    She gives us her views on what the sport of running could do to get out of the hole it is in related to doping.
    Today’s Guest
    Kara Goucher
    Kara Goucher is an American long-distance runner.  She won a silver medal in the 2007 World Championships in the 10,000 meters, and participated in the 2008 and 2012 Olympic games.
    What You Will Learn About

    * What roadblocks and lack of support she has experienced with races and sponsors since becoming a mother runner.
    * What the worst part of her career was.
    * Why Kara gave up the last 4 miles in the Olympic trials.
    * Why Kara is no longer with her sponsor, Nike, after 12 years.
    * What advice Kara gives to those who are struggling or injured to keep hanging in there.
    * What ideas Kara has on preventing cheating from happening in the sport of running.

    Listen to the Running for Real Podcast
    Kara’s Power PoseInspirational Quotes
    Losing my father at such a young age just makes me more appreciative of all the people I have in my life and all the time I have with the people I care about.
    All you can do is focus on what your own journey is.  And nobody’s is the same.
    I care about companies that care about people in the long haul.  And that care about every type of runner.
    Just remember, the body is a miraculous thing.  You will get better.  You will get through it.
    Lean on your running friends.  Just believe.  It takes just one good day to just turn everything around.
    I am only asking myself to do what I have proven to myself I can do in training.
    Resources Mentioned
    Last week’s interview with Andrew Jones 
    Kara’s articles on Oiselle blog
    Kara’s website (where you can find about the retreat)
    Kara on Twitter
    Kara’s Facebook page
    Generation UCAN and BodyHealth sponsored this episode of Running for Real. Two products you can rely on.
    Even if you are trying to tweak your diet to be ready for race day, Generation UCAN is the ONLY fuel I needed during my marathons. This is one product that can help you make sure you are well fueled, both in training and in races. I love the bars for every day training, and still have one every morning, they are great for pre-workout,
    1 hr 1 min
  • Kara Goucher: You Only Need One Good Day for Your Life to Turn Around -R4R 050

    Role models are often people you see from afar and only hope to meet.  In this episode I meet and talk with my role model, Kara Goucher, and see the real and vulnerable side of her.

    This episode is for runners, mother runners, and those who know a mother runner.

    We dive right into running and motherhood.  Kara shares with us her thoughts on

    starting a family while having a successful running career, and how becoming a mother has changed her.

    She shares her personal experiences of lack of support and roadblocks with races and her sponsors.

    Kara gives us some advice about coming back after having a baby.  She shares what she would have done differently with her comeback.

    We discuss the issue of her body weight that has been a topic throughout her career before and after her child’s birth.

    Kara recalls her experience running at the Olympic trials and describes what she was thinking during the last 4 miles.

    We discuss her reporting the Nike Oregon Project to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency and the possible repercussions it could cause her.

    She gives us her views on what the sport of running could do to get out of the hole it is in related to doping.

    Today's Guest

    Kara Goucher

    Kara Goucher is an American long-distance runner.  She won a silver medal in the 2007 World Championships in the 10,000 meters, and participated in the 2008 and 2012 Olympic games.

    What You Will Learn About
    • What roadblocks and lack of support she has experienced with races and sponsors since becoming a mother runner.
    • What the worst part of her career was.
    • Why Kara gave up the last 4 miles in the Olympic trials.
    • Why Kara is no longer with her sponsor, Nike, after 12 years.
    • What advice Kara gives to those who are struggling or injured to keep hanging in there.
    • What ideas Kara has on preventing cheating from happening in the sport of running.

     

    Inspirational Quotes

    Losing my father at such a young age just makes me more appreciative of all the people I have in my life and all the time I have with the people I care about.

    All you can do is focus on what your own journey is.  And nobody’s is the same.

    I care about companies that care about people in the long haul.  And that care about every type of runner.

    Just remember, the body is a miraculous thing.  You will get better.  You will get through it.

    Lean on your running friends.  Just believe.  It takes just one good day to just turn everything around.

    I am only asking myself to do what I have proven to myself I can do in training.

    Resources Mentioned

    Last week's interview with Andrew Jones 

    Kara's articles on Oiselle blog

    Kara's website (where you can find about the retreat)

    Kara on Twitter

    Kara's Facebook page

    Generation UCAN and BodyHealth sponsored this episode of Running for Real. Two products you can rely on.

    Even if you are trying to tweak your diet to be ready for race day, Generation UCAN is the ONLY fuel I needed during my marathons. This is one product that can help you make sure you are well fueled, both in training and in races. I love the bars for every day training, and still have one every morning, they are great for pre-workout, ESPECIALLY if you are prone to stomach upsets. You can get 15% off with code RUNNING4REAL at Generationucan.com

    BodyHealth Perfect Amino helped my body recover MUCH faster after runs and workouts, I couldn't imagine my training life without them. You can enter to win a free pack of 6 bottles or get 10% off at BodyHealth.com using coupon code TINA10. Click the banner for more information.

    1 hr 1 min
  • Dr. Andrew Jones: What We Can Learn From The Greatest Runners of All Time -R4R 049

    This episode shifts us to the science behind running, and beetroot.  Beetroot?  You heard that right.  After listening, you just may want to put it on your next shopping list.

    We begin by talking about his running records held at an early age and how his running led him to become obsessed with the physiology of distance running.

    He get into the specifics about his beetroot study.

    We hear first-hand examples of time spent working with Paula Radcliffe.

    He discusses his role as the scientific adviser with Nike’s the sub-2 hour project and his reflection to the outcome of it.

    He shares his experience and what he learned when he visited the Kenyan runners’ camp in Kenya.

    Today's Guest

    Andrew Jones

    Andrew Jones is famous for his study of beetroot as it relates to a runner’s performance.  He is a physiologist who has worked with some of the leading distance runners including Paula Radcliffe.  His involvement led to huge improvements in her performance.  He was the major scientific adviser with Nike’s sub-2 hour marathon project.

    What You Will Learn About
    • What record Andrew has held for the last 30 years.
    • What Andrew’s involvement was with the Nike sub-2 project.
    • What foods are used as great recovery products.
    • When and how much beet root should be used to see a benefit.
    • Why Andrew says that “the marathon world record is way slower than a human would be

      potentially be capable of running it.”

    • What Andrew sees as the reasons why Kenyan runners are ranked above the rest.

     

    Inspirational Quotes

    Things like cherry juice are better in recovery and they contain a lot of polyphenols.  Taking anti-oxidants and things like polyphenols which are in cherries, also in beet root juice, can sort of help the recovery process a bit.

    If you consume high nitrate food stuffs you can lower your blood pressure, as well.

    I’m not saying you should run, you should not have breakfast before you race, but actually in terms of forcing some additional musclar adaptation, it isn’t always a bad thing to get up and to run.   You kind of treat your body to, or teach your body to adapt in certain ways by so doing. And you can have your breakfast after you run.

    Resources Mentioned

    Last week's interview with Kim Jones

    Andy on the University of Exeter website

    Andy on Twitter

      

    Thank you to my new running buddy VI and favorite recovery product BodyHealth for sponsoring this episode of Running for Real.

    VI is there to encourage you on tough days, congratulate you on the days you crush it, and remind you of your goals when you need it. You can enter to win your own VI by visiting GetVI.com/running4real

    When I was running 90 miles a week as a pro, I would take 5-10 BodyHealth Perfect Amino tablets every day without fail. They helped me recover faster, and feel better. Now they have Perfect Amino XP, which makes it even easier. Get 10% off at Bodyhealth.com using coupon code TINA10

    58 min

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