Jess and Kailea are joined by producers Leo, Aaron, and Sophie for a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the podcast and its exploration of the ongoing impact of Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. The team discusses the challenges of reaching out to victims, the emotional discoveries made during production, and the ethical considerations of handling such sensitive stories. They also reflect on the broader patterns of abuse in cult-like groups, such as Shen Yun and high-control acting teachers, and share insights on how these communities can be held accountable. Listen in for an honest conversation about the evolution of the series, the personal revelations along the way, and what’s next for the podcast.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes

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In this second episode with Melanie Lee, Jess joins Kailea in their sit-down with the key figure from Dancing for the Devil: The 7M TikTok Cult documentary. They discuss the critical split in the early days of Shekinah church between leaders Robert and Catherine, an event that left a lasting impression on Melanie Lee. Melanie shares what it was like to be raised in the church, and how even the seemingly simplest choices, like deciding what coffee to order, felt overwhelming after she left. She opens up to Jess about the conflict with her sister in Korea and how their relationship has evolved. They also discuss Kelly and Dean Wilking, and how best to support the families of those involved in high-control groups.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this powerful episode, Jess and Kailea sit down with Melanie Lee, a key figure from Dancing for the Devil: The 7M TikTok Cult documentary, to dive deeper into her experience with Shekinah and life after the church. Melanie reflects on pivotal moments not fully explored in the documentary, including her trip to Korea and a revealing conversation with her sister. She also sheds light on Robert’s tactics , offering insights into the early days of Shekinah, and emphasizes the importance of advocacy in helping others affected by cult-like environments. This conversation offers new perspectives and a deeper understanding of Melanie’s journey of recovery, empowerment, and her commitment to supporting others moving forward. As a special treat, Kevin “Konkrete” Davis returns to catch up with Kailea and Melanie, dishing on life after the release of the Dancing

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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Jess and Kailea continue their conversation with Priscylla Leigh as she reflects on her tumultuous journey through Shekinah Church and what ultimately led her to leave. She also discusses how the process of filming the Dancing for the Devil documentary series and the healing power of finally sharing her story and how it brought about profound personal transformation. Finally, Priscylla talks about finding her strength, reclaiming her voice and recovering from the emotional scars left by her time in the church.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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Jess and Kailea sit down with Priscylla Leigh to discuss her tumultuous journey through Shekinah Church, which promised salvation but ultimately led to emotional and physical abuse. Priscylla opens up about the manipulation she endured at the hands of Robert Shinn and his cohorts and the internal conflicts she faced, and the pivotal moments that led to her leaving the church multiple times. 

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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Kailea guides Jessica through the intriguing world of the Modern Mystery School, founded by Gudni Gudnason, a descendant of the Norse god Thor?! As they delve into its claims of spiritual enlightenment, DNA activation, and esoteric teachings, they uncover the school's controversial journey from Iceland to the U.S., and its eventual rise on the international stage. The school’s rapid expansion was fueled by multi-level marketing tactics and accusations of running a pyramid scheme, leaving many followers in both financial and emotional turmoil. Gudni, a charismatic businessman turned spiritual guru, stands at the center of this complex story.

This is a story of ambition, belief, and the fine line between genuine spiritual guidance and exploitation. As Kailea and Jessica explore its depths, they uncover the powerful allure of self-proclaimed enlightenment and the potential dangers that come with placing trust in a figurehead with a grand vision.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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Hello, Forgive Me For I Have Followed Fans! We want to share our new show, "My Friend Daisy." 

About the show: After 19-year-old Daisy De La O was murdered outside her Compton apartment, her friends and family looked to authorities to make an arrest. When that didn’t happen, they took matters into their own hands. Their secret weapon? TikTok. The online videos spawned an international manhunt, rallying amateur detectives to do something radical: Help catch a killer.

From London Audio, iHeart Radio, and executive producer Paris Hilton, My Friend Daisy is a ten-part investigative series written and hosted by L.A. journalist Jenn Swann. Each episode dives deep into the murder investigation and its fallout, exposing what went wrong, how it went viral, and why American communities are turning to social media to find justice. After 19-year-old Daisy De La O was murdered outside her Compton apartment, her friends and family looked to authorities to make an arrest. When that didn’t happen, they took matters into their own hands. Their secret weapon? TikTok. The online videos spawned an international manhunt, rallying amateur detectives to do something radical: Help catch a killer.

Listen here and subscribe to "My Friend Daisy" on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts!

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In this powerful episode, Jess & Kailea sit down with past guest Angela (Former wife of Shekinah Church and 7m Films Member James B-Dash Derrick) and her best friend Lacy to discuss their experiences at Hospitality Church, led by Pastor David. They share how their journey within the church, marked by fear-based teachings and emotional trauma, led them to question their faith and ultimately leave. Angela and Lacy reveal the impact of Pastor David's control over relationships, his teachings on gender roles, while also touching on the lasting effects on their personal lives and friendship. Now, they are dedicated to raising awareness about the harm caused by Pastor David and emphasize the importance of compassion for those recovering from cult-like environments.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this episode, Jess and Kailea explore the world of Shen Yun, the globally touring performing arts company, and its controversial ties to the Falun Gong movement. They examine the fascinating backstory behind the organization, from its founding to the allegations of forced labor and cult-like practices. Joining them are friends Jeremy and Kylie, who share their personal experiences of attending a Shen Yun performance, offering insights into the spectacle and its darker side. Listen in as they unpack the complexities of this performance group, its marketing tactics, and the ongoing legal investigations surrounding it.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this week's episode, Jess & Kailea dive into the chilling world of the Zizians, a group with extreme beliefs that have led to tragic real-world consequences. The recent arrest of Jack “Ziz” Lasota, shines a light on the dangerous intersection of internet philosophy and radical action. The episode explores the origins of Ziz's unorthodox theories, which pushed the limits of rationalism and sparked violence across the country. Jess and Kailea also unravel the timeline of events that ties this bizarre cult-like group to a series of killings, revealing the dark power the internet holds over our beliefs and actions.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.