In this week's episode, Jess & Kailea dive into the chilling world of the Zizians, a group with extreme beliefs that have led to tragic real-world consequences. The recent arrest of Jack “Ziz” Lasota, shines a light on the dangerous intersection of internet philosophy and radical action. The episode explores the origins of Ziz's unorthodox theories, which pushed the limits of rationalism and sparked violence across the country. Jess and Kailea also unravel the timeline of events that ties this bizarre cult-like group to a series of killings, revealing the dark power the internet holds over our beliefs and actions.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this episode of Forgive Me For I Have Followed, Jessica & Kailea dive into the powerful role language plays in cults and high-control groups. They explore how leaders use loaded language, jargon, and manipulation techniques to isolate and bond followers, creating a strong sense of "us vs. them" while redefining everyday words to fit their ideology. From love bombing to the Babel Hypothesis, they also break down how these linguistic tools can influence followers and maintain control, extending beyond cults into business, politics, and social media. Listen in for a deep look at how words can shape belief and power dynamics within high-control environments.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this episode, Jess and Kailea examine the balance between trust and ethical boundaries in creative education, focusing on acting coaches. They dive into the controversial methods of Michele Lonsdale-Smith, whose emotionally intense approach sparked concerns about manipulation and control. With testimonies from former students, they also discuss the dangers of crossing the line between personal growth and psychological harm. Lastly, they highlight the importance of setting boundaries and protecting one's well-being in artistic spaces

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

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What’s the difference between a high-control group and a cult? In this episode, we break down the key distinctions and explore how certain groups and leaders blur the line between self-improvement and coercion. Jessica brings Kailea up to speed about what she has learned about Candace Silvers, a former acting coach, now spiritual healer and life coach, whose methods have raised concerns and definitely lead Jess to saying “that’s not cool!”. They get into some of the questionable techniques and alleged exploitation of this new example of a charismatic leader.

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The ladies bring a couple updates to the table and Kailea shares what life's been like outside of the church in this bonus episode.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this special episode of Forgive Me for I Have Followed, Jessica and Kailea reflect on their journey throughout the series, revisiting the guests and conversations that left a lasting impact. They’ll also highlight memorable moments, share personal insights, and offer candid reflections on key sermon recordings from Shekinah Pastor Robert Shinn.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this episode, Migdalia Raino opens up about the heartbreaking journey of her son Nick’s involvement with Shekinah Church and 7M Films, detailing the troubling changes she witnessed in him over the years. She shares how Nick’s love for dance led him to the church, but soon the group’s emotional and financial manipulation began to tear apart his connection with his family. Migdalia also discusses her relentless efforts to reconnect with her son, expose the church’s harmful practices, and navigate the frustrating legal barriers in her quest for justice. Through her powerful personal story, Migdalia offers invaluable insights and hope for other families struggling with the dangers of high-control groups.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this episode, Jessica and Kailea dive deep into the recent controversies surrounding Krump dancer Chez “TIGHTEYEX” Wills. From the creation of Krump Inc. and the rift it’s caused within the community, to his unwavering defense of Robert Shinn and Shekinah Church despite numerous allegations, they explore the complex layers of loyalty, power, and division at play. The hosts also examine how Chez, once a victim of the very structures he now defends, may have shifted from victim to alleged perpetrator in his controversial actions. With a focus on his public confrontations, including the challenge to Kevin Konkrete Davis, they reflect on how these dynamics reshape the Krump movement and what this means for its future.

For updates on the Lee sisters and their upcoming podcast, follow @melanielee, @elishapriscyllaleigh and @7mtiktokcult podcast. 

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this episode, we sit down with  the Haleys, creators of Stop Culting and Exposing 7M, and Katie Joy, creator of Without a Crystal Ball, to explore the dark world of Shekinah Church and 7M Films. The Haleys  share their journeys of uncovering the manipulative practices of Robert Shinn and his church, while Katie discusses her personal connection to the Wilking family's story and her extensive work exposing high-control groups. Despite facing legal threats, harassment, and emotional tolls, all three remain dedicated to helping survivors and fighting for justice. Tune in for their powerful insights on the ongoing battle to expose cults and raise awareness about the dangers of manipulation and exploitation.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

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In this episode, investigative journalist Sarah Berman (Author of Don’t Call It a Cult: The Shocking Story of Keith Raniere and the Women of NXIVM) discusses her reporting on NXIVM and cults. She shares insights into the emotional and ethical challenges of working with survivors, the evolving language around cults, and offers advice on spotting red flags. Sarah also addresses the legal hurdles cults face and what needs to change to better protect victims and hold organizations accountable.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of victims and their families, address urgent questions raised in the documentary, and gather insights from former members and dancers. Our goal is to uncover strategies for combating abuse and ensuring that controlling, cult-like communities are held accountable for their actions.

*The following is based on actual events.  Certain composite and representative materials and characters have been used for dramatic purposes.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.