Is forgiveness just about letting people off the hook, or is it something much deeper that restores our own humanity? Join Mike Erre and Tim Stafford as they continue their series on the Lord’s Prayer, focusing on the challenging petition to forgive as we have been forgiven. From recent headlines involving the Southern Baptist Convention to the radical math of Jesus’s parables, we explore what it truly means to abandon the ledger system of life.

In this episode, we tackle common misconceptions about forgiveness. We discuss why it does not mean excusing abuse or ignoring the need for justice, but rather refusing to let vengeance poison our souls. Mike shares his personal practice for releasing grievances, while Tim reflects on powerful lessons learned from working with people in the prison system. Whether you are struggling with a minor slight or a deep betrayal, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on the fuel that human community needs to run on.

Chapters:

0:00 Intro and Summer Catch Up

3:45 The SBC Amendment and Women in Ministry

9:20 Institutional Control and Religious Legalism

12:50 Special Guest Seth Erre Joins the Show

17:40 The Lord’s Prayer: Forgive Us Our Debts

22:15 Why Jesus Links Our Forgiveness to Others

26:30 Forgiveness vs Justice: Draining the Vengeance

31:45 The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant

36:10 The Math of Unrepayable Debt

41:50 Choosing to Abandon the Ledger System

46:30 What Forgiveness Is Not: Dispelling the Myths

51:15 The Bag of Cement: Four Ways We Handle Hurt

56:40 Practical Steps to Actually Forgive

1:01:00 Repentance as a Posture of Restoration

1:02:34 Outro and How to Support the Show

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