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April 28 Showpourri #1: Sex, Stigma, and Empowerment
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This Showpourri episode goes right at conversations most people still struggle to have.
We revisit our conversation with Jordan Rullo, a board-certified clinical health psychologist and certified sex therapist, where we break down the stigma around sex in relationships and what it actually means to be sex positive, neutral, or negative.
It’s honest, eye-opening, and one of those conversations that shifts perspective.
Then we shift into an equally powerful conversation with Jenny Groberg—TBI survivor, CEO, and advocate for women.
Jenny shares her journey, the challenges she’s overcome, and how those experiences shaped her mission to empower women at every stage of life.
Two very different conversations. One common thread: growth, awareness, and real-life strength.
If you want to hear the full episodes:
• Jordan Rullo — May 14, 2025• Jenny Groberg — May 15, 2025
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58 min
April 23Life Lately… And How Much We’ve Changed
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Life doesn’t slow down… it just changes.
In this catch-up episode, we’re talking about everything from the past week—the fun, the random, the frustrating… and the moments that make you realize how much you’ve actually grown.
We get into:
Reflecting on 20 years together and how perspective shifts over time

Doing life with your people—movie nights, community, and connection

Taking better care of your mental, emotional, and physical health

Real-life stuff like taxes, parenting, and trying to figure it all out

And looking back at some of the wildest things we did in our radio days… and realizing we’d never do half of that now
Because somewhere along the way…you grow, you slow down a little, and you start seeing things differently.
And honestly?
That’s part of the beauty of it.
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1 hr 2 min
April 22I Thought This Was Normal… Until It Broke Me
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What if the thing you love doing…is also the thing slowly breaking you?
In this episode, Celene Beth Olsen is back—and this conversation goes deeper than anything we expected.
With nearly a decade in the true crime space, Celene is an independent filmmaker, producer, and mental health coordinator whose work is rooted in lived experience and trauma-informed storytelling. A Nicaraguan Mexican American raised in Park City, Utah, she spent ten years with the Sundance Film Festival—shaping her perspective on what independent film can and should be.
Her work spans major series like In Pursuit with John Walsh, The Playboy Murders, The Real CSI: Miami, and The Real Murders of Orange County and Los Angeles. She’s also the voice behind True Crime & Hollywood: A Personal Tale—a podcast exploring trauma through honest conversations with survivors and storytellers.
But this episode goes beyond the résumé.
We talk about:
The 10-year journey behind her film Killing Theodore*

Why the film industry is shifting—and what it means for creators

The emotional cost of working in true crime
Because behind the storytelling…there’s something people don’t see.
The weight. The trauma. The impact of sitting with stories most people never hear.
At one point, it caught up to her.
And it forced a shift—personally and professionally.
From sobriety…to becoming a certified mental health coordinator in the documentary space…
this is a conversation about what it really takes to tell stories ethically—and what happens when you don’t.
🎧 Listen to Celene’s podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-and-hollywood-a-personal-tale/id1765299017
📲 Follow her work: https://www.instagram.com/killingtheodorehttps://www.instagram.com/celenebethhttps://www.instagram.com/thesundancekidfilm

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55 min
April 21He’s Still Waiting for Her… (And We’re Still Processing Saturday)
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We thought this episode was going to be about Saturday.
Our 20-year anniversary party…seeing all of you…finally getting to hug people we’ve only known through a mic.
And it was all of that.
It was full. It was overwhelming in the best way. It felt like one big family reunion.
But that’s not what stayed with us the most.
Because at the same time…we were saying goodbye to Sheila.
And while we’re still trying to process that decision—what’s been hitting us even harder is watching Rusty try to understand it.
He’s still looking for her. Still waiting where she used to be. Still bringing her toys and leaving them by her bed.
And it’s just…
a lot.
In this episode, we talk about:
What Saturday really meant to us (and why it felt bigger than a celebration)

The connection we feel with you—and why it doesn’t feel like a typical “audience”

The guilt, grief, and love that comes with losing a pet

And the moments with Rusty that we weren’t prepared for
This one is everything life tends to be at once—beautiful, heavy, meaningful… and hard to explain.
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55 min
April 16 👉 What If There’s More to This?
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This episode starts like a normal catch-up…
but it doesn’t stay there.

We talk about real life—showing up for your people, walking through hard seasons, and finding hope in the middle of things like health struggles, loss, and everything life throws at you.

From there, the conversation shifts into the everyday stuff—family, kids growing up, random moments, and the kind of stories that just remind you how unpredictable life can be.

And then… it takes a turn.

We go down a rabbit hole that’s been getting a lot of attention lately—consciousness, connection, and the possibility that some people may be experiencing the world in ways we don’t fully understand.

From the non-speaking autistic community…
to personal experiences that are hard to explain…

👉 it leaves you with a bigger question:

What if there’s more to this life—and to each other—than we’ve been taught?

This one is real, thought-provoking, and definitely one you’ll be thinking about long after it’s over.

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1 hr 11 min
April 15👉 Just Go (Even If It’s Not Perfect)
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This week on the Frankie and Jess Podcast, we sit down with Melissa McNay, the creator behind wanderlust_withmel Instagram—and this one is all about getting out and actually living.

Melissa shares how she’s built a growing community around exploring Utah and beyond—finding unique stays, hikes, and adventures that don’t require a huge budget or perfect timing.
We get into:
easy hikes and getting started (even with kids)

what it really looks like hiking with little ones 😅

running into wildlife—moose, rattlesnakes, mountain lions, even bear

pushing through fear (heights, exposure, all of it)

and why you don’t need much to just go
This isn’t about extreme adventure.

It’s about making it happen anyway.

If you’ve been waiting for the “right time”… this might be it.
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48 min
April 14You Don’t Get It… Until You Get It
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This week’s episode started as a simple catch-up… and turned into something else.

We talk about how much we consume and how easy it is to lose ourselves in the scroll—and why creating more might be the missing piece.

Then the conversation shifts.
We get into grief, loss, health, and those moments that stop you and make everything feel different. We talk about kids growing up, chapters ending, and how perspective changes over time.

Because there are things in life you just don’t understand…
until you do.

And somewhere in the middle of all of that… we also talk about some ridiculously good banana chocolate chip cookies that might be worth making this week.
🍪 Banana Chocolate Chip Cookies (from the episode)
Ingredients:
2 very ripe bananas (the browner, the better)

1 ¼ cup brown sugar

½ cup melted butter

1 egg

½–1 tsp vanilla extract

2 cups flour

1 tsp salt

1 tsp baking soda

1 tsp cinnamon

2 cups chocolate chips (70%+ dark chocolate recommended)

1 cup chopped walnuts
Instructions:
Mash bananas until smooth

Mix in all ingredients until thick dough forms

Refrigerate for 20 minutes

Preheat oven to 375°F

Scoop onto parchment-lined baking sheet

Bake:
16 min (regular cookies)

22–23 min (larger cookies)

Cool on rack for ~10 minutes

Eat and try not to crush the whole batch
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April 09 Showpourri #3: Better Parenting… and the Life Behind the Feed
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We revisit our conversation with Tommy, a child and adolescent counselor, where we talk about what it actually means to be a better parent—protecting your kid’s emotional well-being, showing up intentionally, and navigating the realities most parents are quietly dealing with.

It’s practical, honest, and something every parent can take something from.

Then we shift gears into a completely different—but equally fun—conversation with Cindy England, the Utah Foodie.

We talk food, of course… but also what it’s really like behind the scenes of being an influencer, building a platform, and living life online.

Two very different conversations.
Worth your time.

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• Tommy — May 7, 2025
• Cindy England — May 8, 2025
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54 min
April 08 Showpourri #2: Real Talk, Better Relationships, and Cosmic Insight
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This Showpourri episode covers a lot of ground in the best way.

We revisit our conversation with Dr. Burton from Aspen Grove Counseling, where we talk about current trends in therapy, the questions more people are asking, and some straightforward ideas around mental health, antidepressants, meditation, and better ways to connect with your spouse.

We also pull back the curtain a bit on podcasting and the realities of monetizing creative work.

Then we shift into a completely different but equally fascinating conversation with Kyle Thomas, the official Resident Astrologer for PEOPLE Magazine. We talk pop culture, astrology, and the kind of cosmic insight that made this one such a fun listen.

Two very different guests. Two very different conversations. One episode full of insight, perspective, and personality.

If you want to hear more from these guests, check out the original episodes:
• Dr. Burton — April 16, 2025
• Kyle Thomas — April 17, 2025
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1 hr 3 min
April 07 Showpourri #1: The Conversations Most People Avoid
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This one covers some ground—and it matters.

We sit down with Scott Martin for a conversation that every guy needs to hear—but most avoid. We get into vulnerability, what it actually looks like in real life, and why avoiding it quietly damages connection, relationships, and even how you see yourself.

Scott opens up in a way that’s rare—and it leads to a conversation that hits deeper than expected.

We also talk about kratom—what it is, why people are using it, and why it’s something you should at least understand before it becomes part of your world.

Then we shift gears into something just as important parenting.

We revisit our conversation with Reem Raouda from High Love Parenting, where we talk about protecting your child’s emotional safety, building real self-worth, and what it actually looks like to show up intentionally as a parent.

Two different conversations.
Same theme: awareness, connection, and doing the work most people avoid.
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• Scott episode — March 26, 2025
• High Love Parenting episode — April 2, 2025
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