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May 20 He Sold Everything for a Feeling | Patrick Manning & the Story Behind Black Desert
We thought we were sitting down with the guy behind Black Desert Resort……but this turned into one of the most unexpectedly personal and fascinating conversations we’ve had in a long time. Patrick Manning talks about becoming Florida’s top residential salesman at 18 years old, developing more than 100 resorts, and the unexplainable feeling that led him to Southern Utah and eventually Black Desert Resort. But the conversation quickly shifts into faith, intuition, marriage, parenting, purpose, risk, and family.
Including:• selling everything after living in their dream home for only 3 days • his wife asking God for a sign before moving to Utah • meeting his future wife at Hooters • getting engaged in 30 days • raising six kids while building one of the biggest destination resorts in the country • his daughter Lillian Breeze becoming a rising musical talent • why he’s never watched her perform from the audience • his philosophy on leadership, trust, balance, and “luxury your way”
Learn more about Black Desert Resort at BlackDesertResort.com
Honestly, this one surprised us in the best way.
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41 min
May 19 There Was a Lot of Life in That Car
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On this episode of the Frankie & Jess Podcast, we talk about slowing down long enough to appreciate the life you worked so hard to build… while also trying to figure out if we spend too much time chasing the next thing.Jess talks about the “I Love You Sis” gathering, family softball nights, the Dough Show, healing, health, and finally allowing herself to rest after years of pushing through life at full speed.Frankie talks about Axel scoring his first goal of the season, seeing Eric Johnson live again, hiking Desolation Lake and seeing alarming drought conditions firsthand, and the unexpectedly emotional experience of donating his Jeep Cherokee “Barney” after more than 20 years of memories attached to it.There’s also Yellowstone universe talk, community moments, burnout, gratitude, ambition, safe spaces, and one underlying realization woven through the entire episode:
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May 14 Showpourri #2: Resilience, Reinvention, and Refusing to Quit
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This Showpourri episode is all about resilience, reinvention, and what happens when people refuse to let failure define them.
We revisit our conversation with Beau Babka—an old friend whose life has been marked by determination, setbacks, public challenges, and an unwavering belief in the power of personal growth and perseverance.
His story is a reminder that adversity doesn’t have to be the end of your story.
Then we shift into an inspiring conversation with Shae Petersen, better known as “Sril Art,” whose journey from jail to becoming one of Utah’s most recognizable mural artists is nothing short of incredible.
From painting murals for Rudy Gobert and Post Malone to reshaping the local art scene, Sril’s story is rooted in transformation, creativity, and second chances.
Two very different journeys.One common thread: refusing to quit.
If you want to hear these conversations in their entirety:
• Beau Babka — June 25, 2025
• Sril Art — June 26, 2025
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May 13 89 Years Old. Still Curious. Still Running.
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For probably more than 20 years, Frankie kept seeing the same guy running through our neighborhood. Then a few years ago, they finally met. Dr. David Barnes just turned 89 years old. He’s a World War II survivor who still remembers the London Blitz as a little boy in England, a physician and researcher, military officer, marathon runner, world traveler, and author of five books. And somehow… he still runs 13 miles. Frankie sat down in David's home and talked about surviving WWII, hearing air raid sirens in London as a child, medical discoveries throughout his career, what medicine still doesn’t know, the power of curiosity, and why he believes movement keeps people young mentally and physically. They also talked about: • his father surviving three torpedoed ships during WWII• running 21 marathons• doing his first marathon at 41 years old• why “motion is lotion” • the connection between movement and longevity• why curiosity and discovery still matter at 89This became much more than a conversation about running. It became a conversation about purpose, resilience, aging, discovery, and refusing to stop growing. Barnes’ autobiography “Insanity of Wars,” along with his books on scams and Covid, are available at: insanityofwars.com For his books “The 100 Benefits of Running” and “Pelvic Fractures,” contact: [email protected]
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May 12 Showpourri #1: Reinvention, Survival, and Starting Over
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This Showpourri episode is all about resilience, reinvention, and the moments that completely change your perspective on life.
We revisit our conversation with Dustan Jackson, author of Surviving Life: Mugged in Mexico, who shares the unbelievable story of traveling to Cancun with his wife and waking up naked in a ditch left for dead.
It’s intense, eye-opening, and one of the wildest stories we’ve ever heard on the podcast.
Then we shift into an inspiring conversation with Fumihiko Eguchi—better known as Fumi—a true artist and creative force in the world of fashion and hair.
Originally from Japan, Fumi was inspired to move to the United States after watching Full House as a kid. Not knowing the language, he built a life rooted in creativity, movement, community, and artistic expression.
Two completely different journeys. One common thread: transformation.
If you want to hear the full episodes in their entirety:
• Dustan Jackson — May 2, 2024• Fumi — June 11, 2025
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1 hr 6 min
May 07When Staying Starts Hurting You
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This episode starts with a quote about toxic marriages being worse for your health than smoking or drinking… and turns into a much bigger conversation about relationships, emotional patterns, and the things we inherit without realizing it.
We talk about:
why some people stay in unhealthy relationships for way too long

how kids absorb more than we think

the emotional patterns passed down through generations

and what happens when you finally stop betraying yourself just to keep the peace
It’s not about glorifying divorce. It’s about recognizing when something is damaging your mental, emotional, and physical well-being—and having the courage to be honest about it.
There’s also a deeper conversation about vulnerability, parenting, emotional connection, and how many of us grew up in homes where people loved each other… but didn’t really talk.
And somehow, the episode also detours into TSA confiscating an Oscar.
So yeah… it’s one of those shows.
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May 06 Questions I Should’ve Asked Sooner
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For Mother’s Day week, Frankie (and Jess) sits down with his mom, Mary who’s turning 88—and has a conversation they’ve never really had before.
Not surface-level stuff. The real questions.
From growing up in Detroit during the Attack on Pearl Harbor blackouts…to childhood memories that randomly resurface decades later…to what it was like being one of five kids in a completely different era…
There are stories in here you can’t make up.
But underneath all of it is something bigger:
The realization that there are things we don’t ask our parents… until we finally do.
And sometimes, it’s later than we think.
They talk about family, loss, parenting, what her parents got right (and what they didn’t), and the kind of perspective that only comes with nearly nine decades of life.
It’s funny. It’s honest. It’s a little heavy in the best way.
And it’s one of those conversations you’re just glad happened.
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May 05Real Life Hits Different When You See It Up Close
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We kick things off with a simple reminder about being present—but that quickly shifts into a bigger conversation about the people who show up when life gets real.
From unexpected kindness (and porch drop-offs that hit harder than expected) … to losing your voice and being forced to slow down… to reconnecting with friends and realizing how small—and strong—this community really is…
And then it takes a turn.
We talk about the reality behind The Christmas Box International—what happens to kids when there’s nowhere else to go, and why the people doing that work are built different.
It’s heavy. It’s eye-opening. And it sticks with you.
Plus:
A packed weekend from Heber to Park City

Events like Pedals & Prosecco and why they matter

A close call at the ballpark (literally)

Axel’s hockey, family time, and life in motion

And an update on the growing Parkinson’s investigation happening in West Valley
Real life. The good, the hard, and everything in between.
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56 min
April 30 Showpourri #3: Love, Connection, and Real-Life Stories
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This one is about connection - real, honest, and sometimes hard.
We revisit our conversation with Sonnet Hintze, a licensed marriage and family therapist, where we talk about what it actually takes to build a strong, lasting relationship.
From communication to connection to intentional time together - it’s practical and relatable.
Then we share a deeply personal conversation with Shauna Lake, who chose our podcast as the first place to openly share her story.
It’s vulnerable, powerful, and a reminder that everyone is carrying something and that sharing it can create real connection.
Two conversations that hit in very different ways. Both grounded in honesty and human experience.
If you want to hear the full episodes:
• Sonnet Hintze — May 29, 2025• Shauna Lake — June 4, 2025
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1 hr 3 min
April 29 Showpourri #2: Pressure, Purpose, and What Really Matters
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This one goes deeper than you’d expect.

We revisit our conversation with Nick Bjugstad from the Utah Hockey Club/Mammoth, recorded just before he was traded to St. Louis. It hits a little different now—especially with the team making its first playoff run. We talk about the pressure of being a professional athlete, the expectations, and how it all impacts both his career and his family.
We miss him… and yeah—Go Mammoth!
Then we shift into a powerful conversation with Josh Whatcott, whose journey from 22 years in law enforcement into the world of positive psychology brings a completely different perspective on change, healing, and what it takes to build a life with intention.

Two very different paths.Same question underneath it all:

What actually matters?

If you want to hear the full episodes:

• Nick Bjugstad — May 21, 2025• Josh Whatcott — May 22, 2025
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