On the latest episode of the Talkhouse Podcast, Greta Kline (Frankie Cosmos, aka my absolute favorite current band) and Lætitia Tamko (Vagabon, who released one of the best records of 2017) catch up backstage at Pitchfork Music Festival 2017. The friends and occasional collaborators talk the ins and outs of being mid-level indie musicians in today's musical climate — working your own merch, fans' frequent lack of physical boundaries, managing oneself, how to engage with corporate sponsors, and much more. They also take in Tegan and Sara's deep knowledge of the Brooklyn DIY scene, breaking edge in Paris, and finding wisdom in Kimya Dawson's LiveJournal. Check it out, and subscribe now on iTunes or Stitcher to stay in the loop on future episodes of the Talkhouse Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored in part by Shure. Big thanks to Pitchfork for hosting Talkhouse at the festival.

—Elia Einhorn, Talkhouse Podcast host and producer

Today's episode was recorded, mixed and co-produced by Mark Yoshizumi.