Episode 622

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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White.

In this episode, Carl sits down with Gabe Winslow for the follow-up conversation a lot of loan officers wish they could have after a breakout year. The first time Gabe was on the show, he had just gone from 0 to 47 units in year one. Now he is coming back after closing roughly 150 units for about $75 million and he is tracking toward an even bigger year.

Gabe breaks down what actually changed, and it is not some magic lead source or a shiny new funnel. It was leaning hard into his database as it grew, getting consistent with update and just ask calls, and building a real team so he could stop carrying the entire operation on his back. He and Carl also talk through the purchase vs refi mix, how to stair step your production without killing what is already working, and why Gabe decided to create his own refinance boom by setting expectations up front and staying radically transparent with borrowers.

They also get into a really underrated growth lever: building an affinity group and turning it into a referral engine. Gabe shares how a passion-based podcast and community became a meaningful chunk of his business, why most loan officers should build a tribe around something other than mortgages, and how the right audience can quietly become the best pipeline you will ever have.