In 1995, Annette Williams claimed she was pregnant. There was just one problem - she wasn't. As the months passed and her lie unraveled, she and her boyfriend, Fedell Caffey, made a horrifying decision. They would take someone else's baby.

Their victim was 28-year-old Debra Evans, who was nine months pregnant. The brutal attack that followed left three people dead and a newborn fighting for survival after being cut from his mother's womb.

Join Wendy and Beth for this rewind episode from 2023 as they examine one of the most shocking and heartbreaking cases of fetal abduction in US history, a crime fueled by lies, obsession, and unimaginable violence.

This episode was researched & scripted by Wendy & Beth Williams and edited by Minnie Williams.

Thanks for listening! Until next time... look alive y’all, it's crazy out there!

We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod

Please send any questions or comments to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!

Want to Support the show?

You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!

You can make a donation on the Cash App

https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod

Or become a monthly Patron through Patreonpatreon.com/user?u=11415202

Footnotes: https://fruitloopspod.com/2026/07/02/rewind-cradle-of-lies/

Music

“Abyss” by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License“Trap Hamza” & “Lil Sky Beats” by Arulo. Mixkit Stock Music Free License. https://mixkit.co/free-stock-music/trap/

“A Saint” by Saibysed. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoyDwrTWfhlv_yBm84WXXBg. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeod. https://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/full_list.php. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Connect with us on:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Before there was Bonnie and Clyde, Brazil had Maria Bonita and Lampião. Known as the King and Queen of the Cangaço, they led a notorious band of outlaws across Brazil’s rugged northeast during the 1920s and 1930s. To some, they were ruthless criminals. To others, they were folk heroes who challenged the powerful and became legends.

In this rewind episode from 2023, we explore the love story, violence, myths, and bloody end of the couple who became Brazil’s most famous outlaws.

This episode was researched & scripted by Wendy & Beth Williams and edited by Minnie & Beth Williams.

Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there!

Where to find us:

Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/

We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod

Please send any questions or comments to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!

Want to Support the show?

You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!

You can make a donation on the Cash App

https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod

Or become a monthly Patron through Patreonpatreon.com/user?u=11415202

Footnotes: https://fruitloopspod.com/2026/06/25/rewind-love-and-blood-in-the-sertao/

Music

“Abyss” by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

“Latina” by Caslo. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/caslo/. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“PodeQueimar” Ft: Delve by altcontroldelete. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/altcontroldelete/7958. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0. 

“Classical Latin Hop” by greyguy (c) copyright 2010 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/greyguy/29331.

“Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3791-furious-freakLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Connect with us on:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 1996, Sally Snowden McKay and her nephew, blues musician Lee Baker, were murdered at the historic Snowden estate on Horseshoe Lake. A teenager named Travis Santay Lewis was charged and convicted of the murders. Despite the unimaginable loss, Sally’s daughter, Martha, chose forgiveness, and when Lewis was released from prison 23 years later, Martha gave him a second chance. But that decision would lead to another devastating tragedy. 

This episode was researched & scripted by Wendy & Beth Williams and edited by Minnie Williams.

Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop on Thursdays, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there!

Where to find us:

Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/

We are also on BlueSky and Instagram @fruitloopspodFind us on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspodPlease send any questions or comments to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!

Want to Support the show?

You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!

You can make a donation on the Cash App

https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod

Or become a monthly Patron through Patreonpatreon.com/user?u=11415202

Footnotes:

Music

“Abyss” by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

“40s & Shorties” by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. Find her Facebook and Instagram under SEMNCHY or [email protected]

“Drugs” by Arulo. Mixkit Stock Music Free License. https://mixkit.co/free-stock-music/trap/

“Fake Friends” by Yung Kartz. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_Kartz. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeod.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Connect with us on:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Back in March 2025, in honor of Women's History Month, Wendy & Beth gathered for Video Club to discuss the documentary Knock Down the House.

The film follows four women from very different backgrounds - a Bronx bartender, a coal miner's daughter from West Virginia, a grieving mother in Nevada, and a nurse in Missouri - as they launch grassroots campaigns to challenge powerful, long-established members of Congress. Through determination, community organizing, and a willingness to take on the political establishment, they fight for a chance to bring new voices to Washington. Their journeys culminate in one of the most surprising political upsets in recent American history.

Music

“Intranet” by Yung Kartz. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_Kartz. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Latina” by Caslo. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/caslo/. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Cover Me” by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. Find her Facebook and Instagram under SEMNCHY or [email protected]

“Gotta Get it” & “Torey” by Arulo. Mixkit Stock Music Free License. https://mixkit.co/free-stock-music/trap/

Connect with us on:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspodBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 1985, Fort Worth, Texas, was rocked by a violent crime spree carried out by two brothers: Ronald Keith Allridge and James Vernon Allridge III. What began as armed robberies quickly escalated into cold-blooded murder, leaving multiple victims dead.

Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop on Thursdays, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there!

Where to find us:

Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/

We are also on BlueSky and Instagram @fruitloopspodFind us on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspodPlease send any questions or comments to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!

Want to Support the show?

You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!

You can make a donation on the Cash App

https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod

Or become a monthly Patron through Patreonpatreon.com/user?u=11415202

Footnotes: https://fruitloopspod.com/2026/06/04/e274-a-brotherhood-of-violence/

Music

“Abyss” by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

“Court Cost” by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. Find her Facebook and Instagram under SEMNCHY or [email protected]

“Death Row” & “Strange Times” by Yung Kartz. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_Kartz. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeod https://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/full_list.php Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Connect with us on:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Love You, Bye, Wendy & Beth cover a little bit of everything - from spring cleaning, nostalgia, and personal updates to conversations about safety, social justice, media coverage, mental health, and the ways true crime intersects with larger societal issues. As always, it’s an honest, thoughtful, and sometimes chaotic conversation filled with humor, stories, and real talk. 

Look alive, y’all, it’s crazy out there!

How Not to Get Murdered:

If you are in danger or need support, you can call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 or the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline at 988.

A CALL TO MEN

Website: https://acalltomen.org   

YouTube: @ACALLTOMEN1

LinkedIn (Tony Porter): https://linkedin.com/in/tony-porter (linkedin.com in Bing)

MENCARE (Global Fatherhood Campaign)

Website: https://mencare.org   

(Operated globally by Equimundo & Sonke Gender Justice)

THE GOOD MEN PROJECT

Website: https://goodmenproject.com   

Facebook: The Good Men Project (945K followers)

Twitter: @goodmenproject

COACHING BOYS INTO MEN (CBIM)

Website: https://www.coachingboysintomen.org   

(Program of Futures Without Violence)

ONE LOVE FOUNDATION

Website: https://www.joinonelove.org   

(Healthy/unhealthy relationship education for youth)

MEN STOPPING VIOLENCE (MSV)

Website: http://menstoppingviolence.com  

Email: [email protected]

Phone: (704) 562‑4217

THERAPY FOR BLACK MEN

Website: https://therapyforblackmen.org   

Facebook: TherapyForBlackMen.org (video page)

JACKSON KATZ, PhD

Website: https://jacksonkatz.com   

(Internationally known for MVP Strategies & “Violence Against Women: It’s a Men’s Issue”)

News Stories:

A Louisiana man killed 8 children, 7 of his own. His family said warning signs preceded the tragedy. https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/20/us/shreveport-louisiana-shooting-what-we-know-hnk

Cerina Fairfax: Beloved dentist and devoted mother killed by husband, former Virginia lieutenant governor. https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/17/us/cerina-fairfax-death-virginia

Where to find us:

Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/

We are also on BlueSky and Instagram @fruitloopspodFind us on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspodPlease send any questions or comments to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!

Want to Support the show?

You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!

You can make a donation on the Cash App

https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod

Or become a monthly Patron through Patreonpatreon.com/user?u=11415202Music“Hasta La Vista” by Causmic https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCptYdIghPgmOl8opbjZrcuALicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Precinct Lullaby”, “Blue Light Special” & “Red Flags” by Blue Light Special by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. Find her Facebook and Instagram under SEMNCHY or [email protected]

“Switchin Lanes” by Yung Kartz https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_KartzLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Connect with us on:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Between December 1965 and December 9, 1966, fear gripped Cincinnati as a killer stalked the city’s streets, leaving seven women dead. As panic spread and pressure mounted, investigators focused on local resident Posteal Laskey Jr., who was arrested on December 9, 1966, for one of the murders and later convicted. Though never charged in the other six deaths, police and the media quickly linked them all to him.

This episode was researched & scripted by Wendy & Beth Williams and edited by Minnie Williams.

Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop on Thursdays, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there!

Where to find us:

Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/

We are also on BlueSky and Instagram @fruitloopspodFind us on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspodPlease send any questions or comments to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!

Want to Support the show?

You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!

You can make a donation on the Cash App

https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod

Or become a monthly Patron through Patreonpatreon.com/user?u=11415202

Footnotes: https://fruitloopspod.com/2026/05/21/e273-the-cincinnati-strangler/

Music

“Abyss” by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

“Freedom” by Caslo. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/caslo/. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Trap Beat 6” by Arulo. Mixkit Stock Music Free License: https://mixkit.co/free-stock-music/trap/

“Fake Friends” Yung Kartz. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_Kartz. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeodhttps://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/full_list.phpLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Connect with us on:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

San Diego, 1985. Women were disappearing, and fear spread as bodies began turning up in dumpsters across the city near El Cajon Boulevard. The man later identified as Bryan Maurice Jones would become one of San Diego’s most disturbing killers. This week on Fruitloops, we dive into the crimes, the investigation, and the lives that should never be forgotten.

Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop on Thursdays, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there!

Where to find us:

We are also on BlueSky and Instagram @fruitloopspodFind us on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspodPlease send any questions or comments to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!

Want to Support the show?

You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!

You can make a donation on the Cash App

https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod

Or become a monthly Patron through Patreonpatreon.com/user?u=11415202

Footnotes: https://fruitloopspod.com/2026/05/14/e272-the-predator-of-el-cajon-boulevard/

Music

“Abyss” by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

“In Accordance” by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. Find her Facebook and Instagram under SEMNCHY or [email protected]

“Melrose” & “Streets” by Yung Kartz https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_Kartz Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeod https://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/full_list.php Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Connect with us on:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Back in February 2025, Fruitloops Video Club watched and discussed the powerful documentary 4 Little Girls by Spike Lee.

The film examines the horrific 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, where four young Black girls, Addie Mae Collins, Denise McNair, Carole Robertson, and Cynthia Wesley, were murdered in an act of racist terrorism carried out by members of a Ku Klux Klan-affiliated group. Through archival footage and emotional interviews, the documentary explores not only the tragedy itself, but the broader fight for Civil Rights in America.

It’s a heartbreaking, important, and deeply impactful documentary that stays with you long after it ends.

Music

“Blue Light Special” & “Perfect Servings” by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. Find her Facebook and Instagram under SEMNCHY or [email protected]

“Flaming Mansions” by Text Me Records & Jorge Hernandez. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJum8-QA9-w. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Gotta Get it” & “Torey” by Arulo. Mixkit Stock Music Free License. https://mixkit.co/free-stock-music/trap/
Connect with us on:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Wendy & Beth are catching up with personal stories, true crime updates, and the kind of conversations only they can have. From library adventures and card games to self-care through nature and gardening. Plus: Long Island serial killer case updates, community goats preventing wildfires, The Testaments on Hulu, and recent cases involving Ashley Janay and Cesar Chavez allegations.

Look alive, y’all, it’s crazy out there!

Where to find us:

Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/

We are also on BlueSky and Instagram @fruitloopspodFind us on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspodPlease send any questions or comments to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!

Want to Support the show?

You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!

You can make a donation on the Cash App

https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod

Or become a monthly Patron through Patreon: patreon.com/user?u=11415202

Music

“Hasta La Vista” by Causmic https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCptYdIghPgmOl8opbjZrcuALicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Electro Cabello” by Kevin MacLeod. Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3705-electro-cabello License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

“Royal Streets” by Jonas Hipper. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/jonas-hipper/ Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

“Cover Me” by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. Find her on Facebook and Instagram under SEMNCHY or [email protected]

“Switchin Lanes” by Yung Kartz https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_KartzLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Connect with us on:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fruitloopspod

BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/fruitloopspod.bsky.social

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices