Future Commerce

Gen Z Buys the Vibe, Gen X Pays the Bill


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Live from the buzzing floor of ShopTalk Spring, Phillip, Brian, and marketing expert Elizabeth Schmidt unpack everything from nostalgic branding and Gen Z marketing to luxury retail and AI in education. We digest key themes we heard during ShopTalk in real-time and share a compelling look at how relationships and storytelling are driving the next chapter in retail.

You Can’t Optimize Your Way to A MythKey takeaways:
  • [02:30] CEO Richard Dixon emphasized Gap’s legacy as a canvas for American culture and its pivot toward digital-first experiences while embracing nostalgia.
  • [08:30] Kevin O'Leary argues that if you're spending $50K/month and not investing in TV (linear and streaming), you're missing out. His brands spend 40% of ad dollars there.
  • [18:00] Accenture outlined 7 dimensions of luxury today—adding experience, innovation, and social value to the classic trio of heritage, exclusivity, and craftsmanship.
  • [30:30] Zadig & Voltaire targets Gen Z—but it's Gen X parents doing the buying. Smart multi-generational strategy in play.
  • [15:20] Thoughtful, non-promotional SMS messages (like a GIF with no CTA) outperformed sales-driven texts in some cases—surprising and powerful.
  • [24:30] The LORE Activation – Future Commerce’s “Book of Lore” pop-up at ShopTalk captured personal brand confessions and created physical artifacts of digital culture.
  • "Gap is a canvas... a portfolio of American brands that shape culture." – Elizabeth quoting Richard Dixon
  • "Any brand spending $50K/month on ads not doing TV is doing it wrong." – Elizabeth quoting Kevin O'Leary
  • “Brighten your customers’ day—don’t just sell. Some of our best SMS responses came from a simple, feel-good GIF.” – Elizabeth
  • "40% of their customer base is Gen Z, but they're actually winning Gen X because the parents are the ones that are buying... To have a brand that can appeal to two completely separate demographics is incredible." – Elizabeth
  • “You have an always-on advertising channel that's just playing ambiently all the time… and that is extraordinarily powerful.” – Phillip
  • "Myths are made when relationships are formed... and this year, ShopTalk feels like a place where those stories begin." – Brian
In-Show Mentions:
  • @Art_lust on TikTok
Associated Links:
  • Order LORE by Future Commerce
  • Check out Future Commerce on YouTube
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  • Subscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce world
  • Listen to our other episodes of Future Commerce

Have any questions or comments about the show? Let us know on futurecommerce.com, or reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn. We love hearing from our listeners!

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