Do you ever struggle getting your message across to co-workers, parents, or teachers? I sure have.

And when it comes down to implementing behavioral interventions of any kind, the consequences of not being understood can be quite high for the learners in our care.

Think about it for a minute, if someone doesn't implement a behavior plan correctly, people can get hurt. If someone doesn't implement learning programs correctly, individuals will fail to acquire critical skills that could allow them more independence and freedom later on.

At the same time, we know that just telling staff what we want them to do is not very effective. And that's why I've invited Dr. Paulie Gavoni and Anika Costa to join me again on the podcast. In this episode, we discuss Motivational Interviewing. MI involves facilitating conversations with stakeholders in such a way that they are more likely to overcome barriers to implementing what you'd like them to do. That's the extreme short-version, so you're going to want to listen to the show to learn the in and outs of MI in more detail.

Motivational Interviewing may be a familair term to podcast listeners. A few years ago, I hosted Dr. Callie Plattner in Session 236 to discuss this topic in depth. Long time listeners might recall my conversation with Dr. Jim Murphy way back in Session 158, where we discussed the application of Motivational Interviewing to help individuals with Substance Use Disorders.

In this episode, we discuss MI in the context of school consultation. Now if you don't work in schools, don't worry, you'll still get a lot out of this episode. Here's a fun example of how this might be: As you might know, the three of us have been working on a new educational platform called The Behavioral Toolbox, and we recently published our third course on the site called: Motivational Interviewing: Getting Educator Buy-In.

I learned that one of the first customers for this course is someone who is a professional dog trainer. I reached out to her to ask why she bought the course, and she noted that in her line of work, it's not about working directly with the dogs, it's about getting owners to change their behavior, and she saw MI as one tool she could use to help owners follow through with the things she was teaching them. I think that's pretty cool.

• Our latest course, Motivational Interviewing: Getting Educator Buy-In.

• Their book, Quick Wins: Using Behavior Science to Accelerate and Sustain School.

• Other books by Dr. Paulie and colleagues, including his latest, Classroom Management Leadership: Unlocking Behavior to Unleash Student Potential Through Behavioral Science.

• Previous Behavioral Toolbox courses: Ready, Set, Consult! and When Not to FBA.

• Prior episodes with Paulie, Anika, and colleagues.

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• The Behavioral Toolbox. thebehavioraltoolbox.com is a new education and training site that my colleagues Anika Costa and Dr. Paulie Gavoni and I have been working on for over two years. Check out our latest course, Motivational Interviewing: Getting Educator Buy-In as well as the hugely popular When Not to FBA: 5 Quick Strategies for Improving Behavior in Classrooms.
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