Kelly's cousin Kevin Corrigan has been coaching the Notre Dame men's lacrosse team for decades — and this weekend his team is playing (yet again) for the national championship. In honor of that, we're sharing two clips from Kelly's longer conversation with Kevin about what it really means to lead, what it takes to build something that lasts, and why winning is so much harder than it looks from the outside.

Check out Kelly's longer interview with Kevin HERE:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-dive-with-kevin-corrigan-on-great-coaching/id1532951390?i=1000727017947

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