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Audio note: this article contains 127 uses of latex notation, so the narration may be difficult to follow. There's a link to the original text in the episode description.
(Work done at Convergence Analysis. The ideas are due to Justin. Mateusz wrote the post. Thanks to Olga Babeeva for feedback on this post.)
In this post, we introduce the typology of structure, function, and randomness that builds on the framework introduced in the post Goodhart's Law Causal Diagrams. We aim to present a comprehensive categorization of the causes of Goodhart's problems.
But first, why do we care about this?
Goodhart's Law recap
The standard definition of Goodhart's Law is: "when a proxy for some value becomes the target of optimization pressure, the proxy will cease to be a good proxy.".
More specifically: we see a meaningful statistical relationship between the values of two random variables _I_ [...]
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Outline:
(00:56) Goodharts Law recap
(01:47) Some motivation
(02:48) Introduction
(07:36) Ontology
(07:39) Causal diagrams (re-)introduced
(11:40) Intervention, target, and measure
(15:05) Goodhart failure
(16:23) Types of Goodhart failures
(16:27) Structural errors
(20:47) Functional errors
(25:48) Calibration errors
(28:02) Potential extensions and further directions
(28:54) Appendices
(28:57) Order-theoretic details
(30:11) Relationship to Scott Garrabrants Goodhart Taxonomy
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Audio note: this article contains 127 uses of latex notation, so the narration may be difficult to follow. There's a link to the original text in the episode description.
(Work done at Convergence Analysis. The ideas are due to Justin. Mateusz wrote the post. Thanks to Olga Babeeva for feedback on this post.)
In this post, we introduce the typology of structure, function, and randomness that builds on the framework introduced in the post Goodhart's Law Causal Diagrams. We aim to present a comprehensive categorization of the causes of Goodhart's problems.
But first, why do we care about this?
Goodhart's Law recap
The standard definition of Goodhart's Law is: "when a proxy for some value becomes the target of optimization pressure, the proxy will cease to be a good proxy.".
More specifically: we see a meaningful statistical relationship between the values of two random variables _I_ [...]
---
Outline:
(00:56) Goodharts Law recap
(01:47) Some motivation
(02:48) Introduction
(07:36) Ontology
(07:39) Causal diagrams (re-)introduced
(11:40) Intervention, target, and measure
(15:05) Goodhart failure
(16:23) Types of Goodhart failures
(16:27) Structural errors
(20:47) Functional errors
(25:48) Calibration errors
(28:02) Potential extensions and further directions
(28:54) Appendices
(28:57) Order-theoretic details
(30:11) Relationship to Scott Garrabrants Goodhart Taxonomy
The original text contained 10 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
---
First published:
Source:
Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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Images from the article:
Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

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